Thread: 😠The Myth Of “Roid Rage”? (Beginners please read)😠

The "Myth" of Roid rage!

The unvarnished truth
(for beginners and educational value ONLY)

One of the most shrouded topics in most online body-building communities is the subject of roid rage, and does it really exist?

Today let's discuss anecdotal reports vs a study that's recognized by the endocrine society.
Whenever an individual decides to openly share his/her AAS usage there will be a stigma that may follow and unfortunately they might be subjected to accusations of mishandling their emotions,
these accusations can even occur when one is merely under speculation of usage with/without concrete evidence to support it.
Due to media and other false reports from nonsupporting outlets that seem to wage-war against the bodybuilding community and the use of PED's in sports, over exaggerated claims in blatantdisregards, and at times fueled with lies have been known to circulate, as the populace has no real understanding what the truth is, stories sell and that's the truth..

However, Co-workers, spouses, GF/wives have made anecdotal reports of actual encounters with their significant other in what appears to be a steroid induced rage, and at times being attached to a violent domesticated crime..

PED users don't have a leg to stand on, or do they?

The whole theory has been flawed as recent studies suggest, in fact most violent domesticated crimes have more of a correlation with underlining mental-health issues and/or drug/alcohol usage..
In a study of over 10,000 Swedish males, Lundholm et al found that men who had been convicted of a violent crime were much more likely to report having used anabolic steroids
(although the rates were still low in absolute terms: 2.7%, vs. 0.6% in men not convicted.)
However, they say, “this association was substantially attenuated and lost statistical significance after adjusting for other lifetime substance abuse.”
In other words, men who’ve used steroids are not more likely to be convicted of violence after accounting for other drug use.

You're not off the hook yet, so decelerate my dude and read on!

Aside from outside influences such as drug/alcohol usages, what other aliments could contribute to some of these overzealous,
preconceived notions that our society has branded PED user with?
How about and ill mental health/cognitive thought process or simply just instability in ones normal day to day life..
Many people go undiagnosed their entire life with a mental health issue that may be a hereditary genetic predisposition, or even simply in denial due to a matter of "ones pride".
This is a cocktail for a disaster when it pertains to AAS and other PED usages.

We can slice and dice specific compounds/AAS that are more pronounced to attribute to a feeling of uneasiness/irritability with added aggression (often at times it's desired by users for the added advantage during sports/weight training, this is dose/compound dependent, i.e Trenbolone, Halotestin, TNE etc etc)..
But, the unvarnished truth no singular AAS will influence one to react or respond with "uncontrollable" behavior where one was unable to contain themselves...

If you do it, you own it!


RAGE; Everything in life that had consequences due to an outburst where we have to deal with the ramifications of our actions were made by a clear conscience decision,
there can/may be an outside influence whether socially or mentally or even alcohol in which may slightly dictates ones emotions and feelings in particular circumstances and situations.
However, nothing with a clear sober mind make one completely and utterly out of control where there was no reasoning when it concerns AAS use/cause and effects..

Now for the study that finally supports the PED users suggesting that Androgen use eccentially comes with no inward/outward anger,
anger arousal and hostile outlook and anger eliciting situations..

The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men--a clinical research center study.

Abstract

Anecdotal reports of "roid rage" and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts.
However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses,
lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology.
To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders,
and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups:
Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions.
The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook,
and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior,
were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention.
The subject's significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject's mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI).
No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI.
Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group.


CONCLUSION:

Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting,
do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids
might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.

Take home notes:
There's many factors to examine here.. Let's consider the age & genetics/mental health,
the cycle length and the Compound/compounds used and quantity/dosage..These are just a few examples to review!

Beyond anything else here: It's fair enough to generalize that "roid rage" is in fact a myth,
and that we have a moral obligation in society "a set of rules" the do's and don'ts in life.

However this becomes dependent on the individual and how much they diligently their values and responsibility in life..
There may not be a definitive answer bit I firmly believe if you're and asshole - gearz will make you an even bigger asshole,
but ultimately at the end of the day one should take great measures to assure no real ramifications or issues that may follow for irresponsibility,
and if they feel they are immune to the laws and principles in life and anything that may transpire than I'm not sympathetic..

If one is boundless with their action to take the plunge and use AAS, than they should expected a course of action to follow suit there after,
whether it's mentally or physically, you do it, than you own it!

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Great post Vision. I think it’s definitely more so the individual then the gear. If you’re an asshole, you’re an asshole regardless if you’re running gear or not. Except for tren & halo. I get fairly irritable on that however I’m also prepping for shows so I’m hangry too. Regardless like you said, those who act out in anger or rage have to own it. Ultimately we are in charge of our emotions


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That is perfectly said I wish I could quote that and add it into the OP.. and I agree when were dieting down we are hangry, and at times the simplest things that a life get under our skin.. but like you said we are in charge of our emotions and how we Channel it is ultimately our responsibility..

And no way am I advocating that AAS are directly related with instances but I believe they are indirectly related if you know what I'm saying.. but at the end of the day nothing has made me Hulk smash the concrete and flip cars over because I could not contain myself..

I dont care what some studies say, tren turns me into a raging lunatic.

I’ve always been an Asshole, been told by MANY. But the Gear adds to it. The 1 and only time I ran Tren it was Bad, really bad. Bad enough it was the main reason I dropped it. True, it’s all on the individual, but it clearly happens.

Originally Posted by superdrolgyno

I dont care what some studies say, tren turns me into a raging lunatic.

The study was not conducted with Trenbolone, in fact there is extremely very little clinical data with human test subjects and Trenbolone because it serves no purpose in a pharmaceutical setting/treatments, it is a veterinarian steroid.. I am on board that Trenbolone can increase agitation and aggression in some users, but being a raging lunatic is a whole different animal.. you may want to check yourself before you wreck yourself!!

Originally Posted by Gaynz37

I’ve always been an Asshole, been told by MANY. But the Gear adds to it. The 1 and only time I ran Tren it was Bad, really bad. Bad enough it was the main reason I dropped it. True, it’s all on the individual, but it clearly happens.

I'm with you that Trenbolone can bring out the worst in someone, I'm quite by Nature but I do possess a short fuse and some compounds just do not mix well with me..

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

I agree 100%. There can be a indirect response however there is a primary agitator that stimulates that and the AAS are just a secondary part to that formula.

Honestly man when I’m on AAS aside from prep and cutting for shows, I feel amazing. I’m in my zone, enjoying myself, my training and the people around me. It just keeps me in a alpha state of mind. So I think actually AAS used properly can be mood enhancers because they put you on that alpha state and you’re not worried or tripping over beta bitch shit


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That is the beautiful part about it that it can truly and hand someone's cognitive behavior for the better, sense of well-being and confidence because it improves the CNS and the Snips with the signaling between neurotransmitters, with an improved cognitive thought process it will lower depression in many users that is why some pharmaceutical settings are utilizing testosterone in place of other antidepressants for therapeutic alternatives... I'm right there with you my dude it puts me right in a zone... There is no greater feeling than being on...

Excellent write up!!


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