Super High Dose 12 week cycle

**Weapon X** · 01-10-2018, 11:31 PM

In the past, I've gotten good results running 60mg Dbol/day with 50 mg AD50/day. Shorty I'm going to start 80mg Tbol/day with 50mg AD50/day.

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Btw I’ve never tried the dbol/adrol combo. What’s your take on it based off your experience? How were the gains using them together? What mg of each per day did you use.

**TrenGuy** · 01-10-2018, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Sssxc

1g test e
800mg primo
600mg decca
750mg tren
450mg masteron
8iu insulin preworkout
4iu gh preworkout
50mg proviron ed

Another

1g test e
600g test p
800g primo
800g tren e
240g tren a
800g eq
Insulin 10-12iu preworkout and 10iu post workout

Another

1g test e
750mg test p
800mg tren e
800mg decca
450mg masteron
350mg winny
Rp2 200mcg 4 x daily
Mod-grf 1-29 200mcg 4 x daily
Tb500 5g weekly

I personally like high doses of test

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Doesn't look too bad other than the inclusion of both test e and p, but that does speed things up at the beginning of the cycle and shorten your time to pct. Which I doubt you do. Stats?

More importantly, you're still only halfway to OPs 8g mark though. Like everyone has mentioned, reward vs risk/pain in the arse becomes less and less meaningful once you go beyond where you are.

**Radman69** · 01-10-2018, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Btw I’ve never tried the dbol/adrol combo. What’s your take on it based off your experience? How were the gains using them together? What mg of each per day did you use?

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personally, i only take orals on training days 1hr before workout... i was using 25mgs of each for a period of 3weeks( any more than a 3 week stretch on orals for me i start to feel like shit afterwards) I was using this combo crawling out of a rebound so i was fucking primed...was also using 750sustanon/400Tren E/400 NPP EOD pinning schedule... I added 24lbs in that 3-4 week time. Of course not all 'stage weight' obviously but i kept conditioned....for MY little manlet ass that's pretty fuckin impressive regardless...

**mastermolnar** · 01-10-2018, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Well personally I don’t do the phase two transition part. Usually I’ll just switch over like you suggested. However for ED I made that phase due to the fact that initially he wanted to run all of those compounds together so I figured I’d add that just to have that cycle protocol appeal to him a bit more. Plus I’ve gotten a lot of good feedback based off of real life experiences from the tren/npp combo being used together. So I also figured that making that transition phase with lower doses will introduce the new compounds, let the eq and deca still work for a total of 12 weeks even though the last 2 are lower doses and utilize that synergy of tren/npp that I’ve heard works wonders from several credible people based off of their real life applications

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i actually love tren and npp together at low doses. That makes a little more sense. Just wasn't sure of the reasoning. Thanks for clarifying. I like that layout. I'd actually just drop the eq and run the npp and tren at 300 a piece for the remaining 8 weeks. Npp does a lot for me and tren always gets me hard as nails

**mastermolnar** · 01-10-2018, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sssxc

Of course it's not 4 x what it would be, however it wouldn't be a small increase either.

The fact I'm pointing out is that i have been there and done that, rather than telling people what I think and believe without proper knowledge.

I don't like when people give their opinions rather than their experiences as this leads to "bro science".

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Well that's been MY experience, which isn't meager. But I agree. Bro science breeds ignorance, but so does any one person saying "this is how it is" given that my body doesn't respond the same as any other person necessarily.

**Primemuscle** · 01-11-2018, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Weapon X

In the past, I've gotten good results running 60mg Dbol/day with 50 mg AD50/day. Shorty I'm going to start 80mg Tbol/day with 50mg AD50/day.

How did you feel your gains were with that combo?

And I’ll be interested to hear your feedback on that adrol/tbol combo. Sounds tempting as well

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**Primemuscle** · 01-11-2018, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by mastermolnar

i actually love tren and npp together at low doses. That makes a little more sense. Just wasn't sure of the reasoning. Thanks for clarifying. I like that layout. I'd actually just drop the eq and run the npp and tren at 300 a piece for the remaining 8 weeks. Npp does a lot for me and tren always gets me hard as nails

No problem man. I like a good convo. Helps learn a bit more and gain insight. And I’ve heard that tren/npp is a solid combo. Can’t wait to try it when I start my next blast. NPP is arguably my favorite compound. And tren, well it’s tren so you know how that goes lol

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**Primemuscle** · 01-11-2018, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Radman69

personally, i only take orals on training days 1hr before workout... i was using 25mgs of each for a period of 3weeks( any more than a 3 week stretch on orals for me i start to feel like shit afterwards) I was using this combo crawling out of a rebound so i was fucking primed...was also using 750sustanon/400Tren E/400 NPP EOD pinning schedule... I added 24lbs in that 3-4 week time. Of course not all 'stage weight' obviously but i kept conditioned....for MY little manlet ass that's pretty fuckin impressive regardless...

Coming off a rebound would be a perfect time to utilize that combo. That’s sick man, granted your diet was clean I’m sure it was a relatively clean gain. 24lbs in 3-4 weeks is legit for anyone in my opinion. Especially with time under their belt in this game

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**Sssxc** · 01-11-2018, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by TrenGuy

Doesn't look too bad other than the inclusion of both test e and p, but that does speed things up at the beginning of the cycle and shorten your time to pct. Which I doubt you do. Stats?

More importantly, you're still only halfway to OPs 8g mark though. Like everyone has mentioned, reward vs risk/pain in the arse becomes less and less meaningful once you go beyond where you are.

Yes and yes.
I prefer prop over test e, however I don't like pinning 10ml to get the same effect as 4ml
I have pct in the past, however I have children and a grandchild now, so I am not concerned about pct nowadays.

I'm in my mid 30's 6" 1-2", 115kgs and around 15% bf.
On current cycle, my chest size has increased from 120cm to 130cm in the past couple of months lol

I would run more gear if I could, however there is only so much oil that can be put in the body...
Maybe if I could get like a drip? Or like an implanon like women use for birth control modified to contain test, tren, primo and masteron?? Lol

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**Sssxc** · 01-11-2018, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by extremedisciplin

Never used slin before, what kind do you take pre workouts and post. What do you as far as the going hypo is concerned.

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I only use novorapid which lasts approx. 4-5 hours in your system.
I'm addicted to it...

I was born hungry lol
I try and carb load beforehand and during training I sip on 1.5L vitargo which is approx. 105g of carbs, protein shake with carbs again post workout then eat a large meal.

I have fucked up three times on insulin due to not paying attention to time, however you learn this lesson pretty quick.

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