At 3K clean calories and sub-10% BF, you'll be a shredded beast. Nice work!
By way of comparison, you think its fair to categorize this protocol as being on the 'High Test / High Tren' side of things? (relative to others running closer to a TRT dose of Test or running Tren in the 200-400 mg per week range)
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Yes most definitely in my opinion. Others may say not so much, but I think so. I have some advanced users help me out and oversee my cycles. So much of what I do is based on their opinion too. My TRT dose is 250 mg EW. I'll come off this cycle for about 3-4 weeks then switch compounds, but test and tren at the top of my list. I really took a chance running tren e the first time as it's a long ester and if sides would have been unbearable it would have been a long two weeks waiting for it to clear my system. Tren a might have been a safer route.
My next cycle is test e, var, EQ, test prop, tbol and winni. Of course not all at the same time.
I never find the time to find another place,
I'm a bad motherfucker who lives it every day.
You never look at me now, you never look me in the face.
I'm a timebomb yeah
Good show, Walker. Thanks for sharing your experience!
ive ran a simple test prop/tren ace cycle @ 100/75 eod and got shredded. saw my abs for the first time in a long while. and my diet was just ok. not spot on. 8 week cycle. im looking to run one in the spring and may add anavar or even some drol to kick start
Those are some powerful results for a light cycle, whodat. Was that your first Test / Tren cycle?
The trick with all of this is understanding how your body reacts to different compounds. Ratio wise... I play it pretty close to 1:1. In regards to dosages, it's going to depend on how the Tren affects you. I'm a fan of pyramid stacks:
week 1-4
750 test
750 tren
week 5-8
1000 test
1000 tren
week 9-12
1200 test
1200 tren
Then cruise down with a nice pct.
KingLouie - WOW, that's a LOT of Tren Brother. Similar questions as with the other examples: what (if any) kind of cycle support do you run during this kind of protocol, what if any sides do you encounter, what kind of results have you achieved when running it, how long do you cruise after your cycle (and what do you cruise on) and how has your success been keeping your gains after going into your cruise?Originally Posted by KingLouie
Lots of questions, apologies, but sharing this kind of experience I think is tremendously valuable to the forum if you're willing.
Cheers!
- Savage
I've always done the 1:1 ratio. I don't know why really. I'm currently running a 1:1 TrenA / Prop combo. 75/75 ED. The tren sides seem to be more prevalent than the test sides even though the are being run at the same dosages ED. Good thread idea brother. It's interesting to hear what others are saying, especially those that refute the cookie cutter science of "Test > Any other AAS". I believe it should most definitely be included with most cycles, but having the Test dosage higher does not seem to be necessary.
SFW GFH
Cheers, GWT!
Thanks for your post! You experience pretty typical Tren sides then ('Tren-somnia', night sweats, aggression)? You running any sort of prolactin support at that level (525 Mg Test / Tren weekly) or is that still low enough for you that prami or caber isn't necessary? Any sort if AI for the Test?
How are your gains so far? You shooting for strength+, body comp changes or both? I'm intrigued by how apparently multi-purpose this stack can be.
Peace!
- Savage
How's the alpha feeling on tren versus test...
I Like the glances/effect I have on women while on high test, what about Tren? Same thing?
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