Thread: Test / Tren Ratio - Your Experiences

Originally Posted by NbleSavage

Cheers, GWT!

Thanks for your post! You experience pretty typical Tren sides then ('Tren-somnia', night sweats, aggression)? You running any sort of prolactin support at that level (525 Mg Test / Tren weekly) or is that still low enough for you that prami or caber isn't necessary? Any sort if AI for the Test?

How are your gains so far? You shooting for strength+, body comp changes or both? I'm intrigued by how apparently multi-purpose this stack can be.

Peace!

- Savage

I started out at 50mg ED and the sides weren't too bad. I just had headaches every now and then and high BP with some slight aggression. The jump to 75 made a world of difference. It was literally like night and day, especially with the aggression. My wife pisses me off all of the time now. To me it's not that you are just looking to start a fight, its just that you become less tolerant to bullshit and more prone to say something about it. I have to calm myself down sometimes and remind myself that its the tren. Staying in control of your mind is key. Weak minded emo cry-babies with girl issues need not apply to the school of Tren.

Multiple deployments as a B4 have forever fucked my ability to sleep more than 4 hours straight, so the insomnia is something that I've lived with for some time. However, I find that on Tren it is harder for me to initially fall asleep. As long as I don't eat carbs right before bed, I'm G2G with the night sweats.

That being said, I think the sides that are causing me the most grief are the bloodpressure/headaches and the aggression.

I front loaded caber at .5 MG EOD for the first two weeks then hit the normal .5 mg twice weekly schedule and it's working just fine. Alongside that I take 12.5 mg Aromasin in the morning and in the evening ED. I'm gyno prone like an albino dude is prone to sunburn.

As far as the gains go, i'm up 4lbs in three weeks and I seem to be leaning out a little. My strength in the gym goes up every week like nothing else! It is insane! The interesting thing about this stack is the fact that it is so versatile and dynamic, with gains coming in a short period of time. Your gains will reflect your diet and training significantly.

Originally Posted by luger77

How's the alpha feeling on tren versus test...

I Like the glances/effect I have on women while on high test, what about Tren? Same thing?

I can't remember who said it, but it was said that if Test makes you feel like a God, Tren makes you feel like the devil. I find that to be true.

Like on a high test cycle you walk around with your head held high because you know you are better than any other mook in the gym and you keep to yourself. Afterwards you go home and drop 3 loads in your wife/woman and call it a night. Tren is similar, but more so irritability. I seem to loose all speech inhibition these days, and I just say the first thing that comes to my mind.

Originally Posted by NbleSavage

Amazing post, GreatWhiteTruth - we need more detailed experiences such as what you've presented here. Good on you for managing the sides with proper support. I'm alwys intrigued at the mental impact of running gear such as Tren and you're description here is a great 'blueprint' for guys considering a run with the Tren devil - what to expect, how to give some thought to whether or not its a good fit for you personally.

4Lbs in 3 weeks (lean mass) is HOOGE! Doesn't sound like much when you read it, but take a look at the grocery next time you're there at what 4 lbs of meat looks like. Then imagine strategically plastering it on your chest, arms, legs, etc - you get the picture.

Nice work GWT!

Thanks brother. My diet was somewhat dirty during the first two weeks, so I'm not sure if all 4lbs of my gains are in fact LBM gains. My diet is nearly perfected right now I just have to make a trip to the supermarket. Also I'd recommend running Hawthorne berry during any Tren cycle as well.

if u cant sleep try trazedone, thats what i use

Originally Posted by NbleSavage

What's the Hawthorne berry for? Blood pressure management?

Exactly. It works as a vasodilator. It's been proven to do so as well, so it's not just hype.

Originally Posted by paolo123

if u cant sleep try trazedone, thats what i use

Doc prescribed me some but it doesn't do shit for me but kill my drive and motivation. I will feel tired at night but my mind will be racing which prevents me from falling asleep. Then when I eventually do, I wake up 4 hours later. Never fails.