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Test / Tren Ratio - Your Experiences
For those of you who have run Test & Tren (seems a very common stack), what has been your preference as per the ratio of Test to Tren and what was your rationale behind it?
It seems there are two schools of thought on this debate: those who advocate a relatively low dose of Test simply to combat the sides of the Tren (low libido for example) and those who advocate a 1:1 ratio or more Test than Tren via pointing out how potent an AAS Tren is and how a little (eg. 250 Mg weekly) will go a long way.
Have you run Test & Tren? What ratio and why?
Cheers!
- Savage
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I am looking forward to responses On this as well. Some believe running the test lower than the tren as to not cause the two fighting for the receptor allowing tren to bind prior to the test. But let's see what some others who have more time with tren.
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I always run a higher dose of test than any other compound. I am a "test is the base" type Guy. A good dose of test supplemented with lower doses of other compounds. My last cycle was 1500 test/900 deca/900 eq. At the end I pulled out the eq and started 600 tren e. Got me nice and shredded!!
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Originally Posted by
SPEEDY
I always run a higher dose of test than any other compound. I am a "test is the base" type Guy. A good dose of test supplemented with lower doses of other compounds. My last cycle was 1500 test/900 deca/900 eq. At the end I pulled out the eq and started 600 tren e. Got me nice and shredded!!
Cheers, Speedy! Thats a big cycle by my standards! Good perspective on 'Test is the Base' philosophy. Thanks Mate!
ttt for more experiences
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I have run it all kinds of ways straight tren, 1to1, 2x more test then tren.When you get older you have to up the test alot more then tren.
You get tren dick alot easeier gotta keep V/C on hand.Right now iam running 1200mg test 600mg tren hex.
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ive always ran test higher than tren, but this time around im going to do 1-1ratio.
I train hard everyday for the competition called Life.
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Originally Posted by
NbleSavage
For those of you who have run Test & Tren (seems a very common stack), what has been your preference as per the ratio of Test to Tren and what was your rationale behind it?
It seems there are two schools of thought on this debate: those who advocate a relatively low dose of Test simply to combat the sides of the Tren (low libido for example) and those who advocate a 1:1 ratio or more Test than Tren via pointing out how potent an AAS Tren is and how a little (eg. 250 Mg weekly) will go a long way.
Have you run Test & Tren? What ratio and why?
Cheers!
- Savage
Actually there are some people who run a just a trt dose of test with tren or slightly lower test than tren. I cant remember the reasons why but I know there were a few. Tren alone will shut you down, so you need test no matter what. Like stated above test should be included in every cycle. Supermansdaddy had a thread about this but I think it got wiped out one time when the board was down.
Last edited by Rmewrench; 01-08-2012 at 07:33 PM.
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I have personally ran high test, low tren and low test, high tren at the following dosages:
1) 750mg/wk test - 350mg/wk tren
2) 160mg/wk test - 500mg/wk tren
3) 120mg/wk test - 800mg/wk tren (frontloaded 300mg the first day)
At 800mg/wk of tren in cycle 3 I was sleeping very well, saw no mood swings, would still get winded going up stairs (but no more than I would in cycle 1), would still heat up post injection, got no acne, very motivated to lift, had extremely strong libido, and was always pleasant to be around. I recommended this to users back when I first joined this forum and got nearly flamed for the thought of running any compound more than test, as "test is the base compound, so it has to ALWAYS be higher" or some nonsense like that, so I got tired of arguing for it and gave up. I guess I'll keep taking advantage of this little secret on my own
P.S. And yes, test, is the base compound, but in the sense that enough should be present to support male functions (libido, mood, energy, etc.) which ends up being a TRT dosage -> the amount need to bring men with a no longer functioning HPTA, back to equilibrium and be manly again
With all this being said, try different variations, no one can tell you how YOUR body will respond to them except your own body. I personally know people who do fine in each type of variation, so there is no knowing until you try. Use prop and acetate esters to make your changes quick if you like.
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Originally Posted by
psa5
I have personally ran high test, low tren and low test, high tren at the following dosages:
1) 750mg/wk test - 350mg/wk tren
2) 160mg/wk test - 500mg/wk tren
3) 120mg/wk test - 800mg/wk tren (frontloaded 300mg the first day)
At 800mg/wk of tren in cycle 3 I was sleeping very well, saw no mood swings, would still get winded going up stairs (but no more than I would in cycle 1), would still heat up post injection, got no acne, very motivated to lift, had extremely strong libido, and was always pleasant to be around. I recommended this to users back when I first joined this forum and got nearly flamed for the thought of running any compound more than test, as "test is the base compound, so it has to ALWAYS be higher" or some nonsense like that, so I got tired of arguing for it and gave up. I guess I'll keep taking advantage of this little secret on my own
P.S. And yes, test, is the base compound, but in the sense that enough should be present to support male functions (libido, mood, energy, etc.) which ends up being a TRT dosage -> the amount need to bring men with a no longer functioning HPTA, back to equilibrium and be manly again
Cheers, PSA5 for introducing the Test @TRT + Tren position into the discussion! Your first-hand experience is greatly appreciated. I've heard..er...read...of similar approaches and experiences as yourself, albeit with less Tren. The fact that you were able to comfortably run Tren @ 800 mg wk while not experiencing any of the expected sides (insomnia, loss if libido, extreme aggression / agitation, etc) makes a strong case for this approach for those who would prefer to minimize the amount of Test they cycle (either for desire to avoid 'Test Bloat' or simply to minimize the amt of gear they use in general).
If I may, what kind of results did you get on the low Test / high Tren cycles compared to your first high Test / low Tren cycle, how long did you run each and what was your PCT like afterwards? (eg. more or less difficult with high Test or low Test)?
Great insight, Mate!
- Savage
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