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Originally Posted by
Sam Gold
22 g 1.5 inch fine for me. I dont have time to wait around for those smaller g needles. Maybe 25 g if going into delts but it takes so long.
Are you talking to fill them? I draw with a 23 and inject with 25.... when not backloading a slin pin. Backloading takes about 30 seconds.
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I'm with Sam I use 22Guage 1.5 myself too. I'm currently site injecting my biceps with these needles. I'm too impatient to use anything smaller. I bought 25gauge once and was going to lose my mind waiting for that shit to load then it took forever to inject.
Pip isn't caused from the puncture. All you're doing is adding a whole lot of aggravation (smaller needles are time consuming, switching needles from draw to inject sucks too) to save yourself the one second of pain from the initial puncture. Which doesn't really even hurt.
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I’ve had pretty good luck with slin pins everywhere but the gluten it seems
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I've been using 29g pins for a while now without any problems, 1cc can be done subq and by warming it under the hot water tap even the thickest oils go in smooth in under 20 seconds.
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Originally Posted by
iTossSteel
I’ve had pretty good luck with slin pins everywhere but the gluten it seems
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Injecting oatmeal with aas? Sounds like a awesome addition to breakfast..lol
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Originally Posted by
Couchlockd
Injecting oatmeal with aas? Sounds like a awesome addition to breakfast..lol
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Lol glute *** oops ha
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Originally Posted by
PJ034
I'm with Sam I use 22Guage 1.5 myself too. I'm currently site injecting my biceps with these needles. I'm too impatient to use anything smaller. I bought 25gauge once and was going to lose my mind waiting for that shit to load then it took forever to inject.
Pip isn't caused from the puncture. All you're doing is adding a whole lot of aggravation (smaller needles are time consuming, switching needles from draw to inject sucks too) to save yourself the one second of pain from the initial puncture. Which doesn't really even hurt.
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Time consuming to back load and use smaller needles ??? Are you kidding me ??? You must not have tried it or your idea of "too long" must be anything over 30 seconds. Shit if "seconds" are so critical to you, why not go with an 18GA needle instead of your 22 GA You could probably save a second and a half drawing and injecting that way. I can draw, back load, and complete my injection of virtually any compound/oil in under 1 minute. All with ALOT less pain and muscle scarring. Why would you use such a large needle, in such small muscles, when you don't need to ??? I use to use 22 GA x 1.5". But when you start using short half life compounds, like Tren Ace or test propionate, and need to inject daily, believe me, your muscles will appreciate the 29 GA. 500 Slin pin. You can use um in virtually any muscle and makes rotating injection sites so much easier. You will create a hell of alot of unnecessary scar tissue if you continue to use large needles in the same muscles, day after day, month after month, year after year. You don't need to. I've switched and use slin pins exclusively for all my injections. I'd never go back. Believe me, you're talking additional seconds, not minutes that it takes to incorporate slin pins vs standard IM pins.
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Originally Posted by
BNSFguy
Time consuming to back load and use smaller needles ??? Are you kidding me ??? You must not have tried it or your idea of "too long" must be anything over 30 seconds. Shit if "seconds" are so critical to you, why not go with an 18GA needle instead of your 22 GA You could probably save a second and a half drawing and injecting that way. I can draw, back load, and complete my injection of virtually any compound/oil in under 1 minute. All with ALOT less pain and muscle scarring. Why would you use such a large needle, in such small muscles, when you don't need to ??? I use to use 22 GA x 1.5". But when you start using short half life compounds, like Tren Ace or test propionate, and need to inject daily, believe me, your muscles will appreciate the 29 GA. 500 Slin pin. You can use um in virtually any muscle and makes rotating injection sites so much easier. You will create a hell of alot of unnecessary scar tissue if you continue to use large needles in the same muscles, day after day, month after month, year after year. You don't need to. I've switched and use slin pins exclusively for all my injections. I'd never go back. Believe me, you're talking additional seconds, not minutes that it takes to incorporate slin pins vs standard IM pins.
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Originally Posted by
BNSFguy
Time consuming to back load and use smaller needles ??? Are you kidding me ??? You must not have tried it or your idea of "too long" must be anything over 30 seconds. Shit if "seconds" are so critical to you, why not go with an 18GA needle instead of your 22 GA You could probably save a second and a half drawing and injecting that way. I can draw, back load, and complete my injection of virtually any compound/oil in under 1 minute. All with ALOT less pain and muscle scarring. Why would you use such a large needle, in such small muscles, when you don't need to ??? I use to use 22 GA x 1.5". But when you start using short half life compounds, like Tren Ace or test propionate, and need to inject daily, believe me, your muscles will appreciate the 29 GA. 500 Slin pin. You can use um in virtually any muscle and makes rotating injection sites so much easier. You will create a hell of alot of unnecessary scar tissue if you continue to use large needles in the same muscles, day after day, month after month, year after year. You don't need to. I've switched and use slin pins exclusively for all my injections. I'd never go back. Believe me, you're talking additional seconds, not minutes that it takes to incorporate slin pins vs standard IM pins.
Buddy I inject upto 14 times a week pre-contest contest. I would say to you why buy all those extra needles because your mangina hurts if the little needle isn't little enough. I'm 20 years into this and hundreds of injects with zero fckn scaring or needle marks. FYI those 29 guage can cause muscle scaring just as easily as my 22 can. Because the muscle scarring is caused from the compound being injected into the same spot too often. Not from the fckn size of your needle. Do you buy different lengths too buddy?
Instead of buying the longest you need and not pushing it all the way all smaller muscles. I know this is going to blow your mind but some people just like it simple and aren't worried about their injection being less painful if they used a smaller needle. Mainly because the 22guage isn't that big to begin with. You probably own 10 different fucking hammers too! BTW 30 more seconds is a big fckn deal some times especially when I'm worried about one of my kids walking in on me.
It's so much easier to just grab one syringe without even looking because it's the only one I buy. Then draw it out and inject. I don't need something with multiple compartments to keep all the different unnecessary shit seperated. I can just throw some alcohol pads and my bottles of gear in the syringe box and put it up somewhere. But if you think injecting 3cc everyday through a 29 guage needle won't get annoying when you know you can do it 20 times faster and easier with a 22... you hit you fuckn head.
To summarize in my not so polite words... stop being a pussy and shut up about 22 guage needles causing scarring as an excuse to relieve your mangina of some pain. Heres another note too- junkies have needle tracts... and they use insulin pins.
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I don't backfill.
Warm bath for vial.
I draw back syringe stopper, put needle in vial.
Push air into vial, then hold upside down.
I pull back to 1ml mark.
Once it fills up a little, you pushe the air back in and redraw for more suction.
The plunger will stick and the suction will remain, and it literally draws itself.
It's a slin pin bro, it's small already.
No need to worry about pinning after drawing with needle.
I never have switched pins for drawing and pinning.
Too each their own.
Backfilling is just another way to introduce foreign material, though highly unlikely.
My gear is in Miglyol and future gear in MCT.
Not sure about thicker oils.
"It's a lot of hard work, it's hard work that most people don't realize. I think the consistency of the hard work, is the hardest part." Dallas McCarver
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