1st cycle - fever-like symptoms

**kimmy6** · 01-31-2018, 08:58 AM

hi guys,

I'm 45 - 165 lbs, 6'1.
Just started my first cycle 4 days ago, 350 mg Test E.
2 days ago, I took 12.5mg aromasin (planning to use 12.5mg EOD) and last night started to develop fever like symptoms, mostly muscle aches and painful joints. Was hard for me to sleep but it got better throughout the night.
This morning I don't feel great, mostly feeling weak and still muscle aches. I have been hydrating a lot since I started, 1 gallon of water per day.

My question:
Has anyone ever felt the same symptoms? if so, does it mean that aromasin is too harsh on me and I should change the dosage to maybe 6.25 mg ED instead? (although I have 25mg pills so cutting them in 4 is going to be an interesting process).

Thanks!

**candle** · 01-31-2018, 09:06 AM

350mg of Test e? your flu like symptoms are likely from test. just so you know, you're not supposed to inject 350mg of test all at once in one day. you split the dosages into two days per week. there's a reason why a lot of pharma's, etc have their test dosed at nowhere higher than 330mg+.

fun fact: it's complete bs if a vial says a cc of test is anything over than 330mg+, cuz it's not. and if it is, it'll give you problems like this

for example, pin 175mg of test on Monday and pin another 175mg of test on Thursday. should solve your problem.

it also depends on where you are injecting. a general guideline is: 1cc for delts, 2cc for quads, and 3cc for glutes. also, aromasin is a suicide inhibitor. you do not need to be using it that often so you don't totally crash your E2. i'd recommend arimidex at 0.5mg twice or thrice a week. (depending on your bloodwork)

other possibilites:
* you are allergic to the ingredients used in your test
* you are just getting the flu because its cold as hell outside
* it actually is aromasin, and you need to use arimidex instead (unlikely)

**kimmy6** · 01-31-2018, 09:10 AM

thanks Candle. Yes, I pinned the 350 mg in one go in my glutes (my test dosage is 500mg/ml). I had read on different forums that I had the choice between pinning once a week and twice a week?? surprised to read that it's an issue. Thought once a week would be more convenient... :/

Re aromasin - i'd prefer to use it vs arimidex...what dosage would you then recommend? again, i plan to use 12.5mg EOD

**candle** · 01-31-2018, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by kimmy6

thanks Candle. Yes, I pinned the 350 mg in one go in my glutes (my test dosage is 500mg/ml). I had read on different forums that I had the choice between pinning once a week and twice a week?? surprised to read that it's an issue. Thought once a week would be more convenient... :/

Re aromasin - i'd prefer to use it vs arimidex...what dosage would you then recommend? again, i plan to use 12.5mg EOD

if you are cruising on 250mg of test a week, then yes people will use one shot per week. u should split your test dosages on different days brother. also, any reason why you prefer not to use arimidex? just curious. because aromasin is a bit overkill for a simple cycle of test only.

although if you must, just use aromasin at 12.5mg once or twice a week. (depending on bloodwork) cannot stress enough how important bloodwork is

p.s: 500mg/ml is absolutely absurd..sorry you had to go through that. anyways, next time you buy more gear, i recommend using a source that has vials dosed reasonably

**kimmy6** · 01-31-2018, 09:21 AM

I read a lot about aromasin vs arimidex and most contributors today seem to prefer aromasin due to it being a suicidal AI and as such, more effective

Originally Posted by candle

also, any reason why you prefer not to use arimidex? just curious. because aromasin is a bit overkill for a simple cycle of test only.

**candle** · 01-31-2018, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by kimmy6

I read a lot about aromasin vs arimidex and most contributors today seem to prefer aromasin due to it being a suicidal AI and as such, more effective

it's really based on how prone you are to estrogen sides, really. anyways, i only use aromasin on harsher cycles such as tren + anadrol or dianabol + npp + deca. if i dont have aromasin with me, i'll use arimidex thrice a week.

hope that helps. have a good one, man. and let us know if you have anymore questions

**kimmy6** · 01-31-2018, 09:26 AM

thanks Candle. Is this a consensus that on lighter cycles like mine arimidex is preferable over aromasin?

**Sh0tsf1red** · 01-31-2018, 12:02 PM

I agree, it sounds like what's commonly called 'test flu' and should wrap up soon, your body just adjusting to the added compounds

you mentioned you increased water to 1 gallon/day. That should be there bare minimum on cycle, try for 1.5 or 2

**kimmy6** · 01-31-2018, 12:05 PM

re water - great, thanks!
re pinning - do you also recommend pinning 2x per week instead of 1x?
Finally, would I be safe on my simple cycle with aromasin 2x per week at 12.5mg to start with and see how my body reacts?

...and THANK YOU guys, great community

Originally Posted by Sh0tsf1red

I agree, it sounds like what's commonly called 'test flu' and should wrap up soon, your body just adjusting to the added compounds

you mentioned you increased water to 1 gallon/day. That should be there bare minimum on cycle, try for 1.5 or 2

**Electromass** · 01-31-2018, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by kimmy6

re water - great, thanks!
re pinning - do you also recommend pinning 2x per week instead of 1x?
Finally, would I be safe on my simple cycle with aromasin 2x per week at 12.5mg to start with and see how my body reacts?

...and THANK YOU guys, great community

I recommend pinning 4x a week if you can. As far as the ai dosage protocol, this is where individual experience comes into play. You have to find what works best for you and then you can start fine tuning things. It takes time with some trial and error, theirs just no getting around this process.