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Tren:Test Ratio
I tried reading old threads from past before posting this. But what I found was about 6 years old. What’s everyone’s best experiences? Higher tren or higher test? From what I gather 2tren:1test is best? Run an AI along with it plus caber?
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I always run test low when on tren I keep my test at my TRT dose and it works great for me
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I haven't run Tren in years but when i did i experimented both ways. I can tell you 2:1 feels great. I saw much better gains with the higher tren low dose test but there is only one way to find out.
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Originally Posted by
mgin70
I tried reading old threads from past before posting this. But what I found was about 6 years old. What’s everyone’s best experiences? Higher tren or higher test? From what I gather 2tren:1test is best? Run an AI along with it plus caber?
Personal physiological response, mgin. Only way to know what is best for you is to experiment and try both approaches.
"Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price" - Sun Tzu
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Originally Posted by
babybull34
Personal physiological response, mgin. Only way to know what is best for you is to experiment and try both approaches.
Agree Babybull.
OP. Your gonna get a ton of different responses. This is more of an individual thing.
Some feel better with higher test/lower tren. For them, sides are easier to manage.
Others prefer lower test and higher tren.
Ironically for the same reason. Sides are easier.
Often times you will see higher test/lower tren in the beginning. As it gets closer to a show or the end of their cycle, they lower their test dosage. Some down to trt dose and other will even eliminate test.
Started to ramble on for a minute.
But i would suggest running tren a over tren e for your first time using tren. It is in and out of your system faster incase the sides are to bad for ya.
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Originally Posted by
macedog24
Agree Babybull.
OP. Your gonna get a ton of different responses. This is more of an individual thing.
Some feel better with higher test/lower tren. For them, sides are easier to manage.
Others prefer lower test and higher tren.
Ironically for the same reason. Sides are easier.
Often times you will see higher test/lower tren in the beginning. As it gets closer to a show or the end of their cycle, they lower their test dosage. Some down to trt dose and other will even eliminate test.
Started to ramble on for a minute.
But i would suggest running tren a over tren e for your first time using tren. It is in and out of your system faster incase the sides are to bad for ya.
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This is very true. I know quite a few guys who run high test + low tren the first 4 to 6 weeks and then flip it to high tren + low test the last 4 to 6 weeks. This protocol provides the mass gains up front followed by a solidifying/drying out in the end to lock in the gains and re-comp the physique. So many ways to juggle these apples. First thing to do, mgin, is find out your personal response to the compounds and then begin to alter the doses accordingly. Mace nailed it as far as sticking to Tren Ace will you fine tune things, provides room for error with an easy fix if necessary.
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Originally Posted by
babybull34
This is very true. I know quite a few guys who run high test + low tren the first 4 to 6 weeks and then flip it to high tren + low test the last 4 to 6 weeks. This protocol provides the mass gains up front followed by a solidifying/drying out in the end to lock in the gains and re-comp the physique. So many ways to juggle these apples. First thing to do, mgin, is find out your personal response to the compounds and then begin to alter the doses accordingly. Mace nailed it as far as sticking to Tren Ace will you fine tune things, provides room for error with an easy fix if necessary.
Babybull34 has you covered! Seriously..he knows what he is talking about. follow his outline.
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Like they said above everyone is different.
400mg Test E
400mg Tren E
400mg mast E
Is my current deal
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You can also do the same or similar.
My current:
350 tren a EW
350 test p EW
50 Anadrol ED
50 Proviron ED
Did only long esters tren e and test cyp before, and felt in 5 days this time what took 3+ weeks to feel with the longer esters. There's a big difference in cost and pinning frequency, but seems worth it to me. Also there's the benefit of getting tren out quicker if sides are too harsh.
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High test equal or lower tren= bulk.
Lower tets higher tren= cut
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