NPP/Test/Dbol Lethargy

[PJ034]

I've been on this AAS stack since 2nd week of January (about 8 weeks). I'm a 20 year vet of AAS and consider myself to have a good amount of knowledge. But for the life of me cannot figure out what is making me so fucking tired from time to time. I've done too many cycles to even count and have tried most steroids. I stay on test year round btw and just cycle everything else in and out. This is my first time using NPP and have used Dball plenty.

I started out at 700wk test/ 500wk NPP/ 50dy dball after about 3 weeks I started getting tired like I was on 150dy of Anadrol. Over the last 6 weeks or so I've adjusted dosing individually and nothing changed much. Until I cut everything back at once.

The dose now for the last 3 weeks (until this week) is 400 test/350 NPP/ 25 dbol. I'm on vacation in Costa Rica right now tired as fuck. But woke up this morning jacked as fuck to the point my girl even noticed it who pays very little attention to it. I will usually bring my gear with me but this was only a 5 day so I didn't bother (except I did bring my dbol because it's easy to hide). Instead I just loaded up starting Saturday pinning every day the same dose I do eod until I left (Thursday). As of right now I have 400test/800 NPP/ 50dy dbol. I wouldn't think the NPP would be this fast acting to make me tired. I kept my test the same and 50 dbol has never made me tires before. I know these compounds together are very synergistic but damn the lethargy is ridulous. I've done 1200 Tren Ace before and not been this tired. I will say that I haven't seen progress like this either though.

And before anyone asks my estrogen and progesterin is in check. I compete and know my body enough to dose my AI'S property. I have anast, caber, nolva, letro, proviron, and clomid on hand. Currently the norm is .5 caber twice a week, .25 anast ed, and took 40 nolva before I left to dump some water. Any insight on what I'm experiencing would be much appreciated brothers.

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[Radman69]

Liver Toxicity? Have u been drinking more so than usual on your vaca?

[Radman69]

Hows your appetite?

[Charger69]

Ok- let’s assume that your estrogen is in check- the info saves time. What about hematocrit? You may be high. If so, go donate blood.
I just had a bout with this myself. Do you have a shortness of breath when doing cardio? I would also check BP.


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[PJ034]

Liver Toxicity? Have u been drinking more so than usual on your vaca?

Haven't had a drink yet? Appetite is great... I'm always hungry. I ate 3 breakfasts this morning.

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[PJ034]

Ok- let’s assume that your estrogen is in check- the info saves time. What about hematocrit? You may be high. If so, go donate blood.
I just had a bout with this myself. Do you have a shortness of breath when doing cardio? I would also check BP.


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This could very well be it. Although my blood pressure is in usual range 80's/120's- low 130's. We are on a resort will steep hills and cliffs, and I am getting unusually winded walking up hills. This isn't something I've ever encountered in my 20 years of AAS use especially at lower doses.

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[PJ034]

Liver Toxicity? Have u been drinking more so than usual on your vaca?

Current situation... I let her do all the drinking.

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[Charger69]

This could very well be it. Although my blood pressure is in usual range 80's/120's- low 130's. We are on a resort will steep hills and cliffs, and I am getting unusually winded walking up hills. This isn't something I've ever encountered in my 20 years of AAS use especially at lower doses.

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I’ll bet it’s your hematocrit. NPP and tren drive this up. I was trying to figure out why my cardio tanked..... that was it.
Why all of a sudden??? Accept the fact that your getting older. LOL
All kidding aside, our bodies change and when we think that we know how it will react, it changes. I’m 51 and my body is reacting a little different than last year.
Prior to 40, the changes are not usually noticeable because they are so gradual.



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[Radman69]

Current situation... I let her do all the drinking.

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LOL! good for u bro! Relax and enjoy yourself! Hope u get it figured out!

[PJ034]

I’ll bet it’s your hematocrit. NPP and tren drive this up. I was trying to figure out why my cardio tanked..... that was it.
Why all of a sudden??? Accept the fact that your getting older. LOL
All kidding aside, our bodies change and when we think that we know how it will react, it changes. I’m 51 and my body is reacting a little different than last year.
Prior to 40, the changes are not usually noticeable because they are so gradual.



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Now you sound like her... lol! Telling me I have to come to the realization I'm getting older (I'm coming up on 46). To tell the truth I have never given blood. I've had some pretty crazy labs over the years too and my body always seems to level itself back out. I'll be getting bloods when I get back and donating blood for sure though. After reading some more today I definitely need to give some blood. According to what I'm reading being on test year round for the last 5 years alone studies show this is a must. My blood has to be like soup by now. I don't know how my blood pressure isn't through the roof by what I've read. Thanks for the info.

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