Thread: First cycle advice please

Little bit about myself: Just about to take my first cycle:


"Wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg per week (bulk here by taking on excess CLEAN calories)
Wk 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
Wk 11-16 test cyp 500mg per week (cut here by lowering calories and increasing cardio)
Wk 11-16 winstrol 50mg ED
Wk 3-19 adex .25mg E3D
The day after the last shot/dose of aas start HCG at 1000iu ED for 10 days. (it is important to run adex during this time)
The day after the HCG is done start pct using nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/25/25."

I'm 36, 5.7 - 10.8 stone - i can diet right and i work hard in the gym when i'm in the zone. But size is just something i'm struggling with!!!

Had this cycle suggested to me (as my first) in order to bulk a bit and then cut down and get into shape for the summer! ive been reading extensively and this seems like a well advised first cycle.

Any tips or advice on this would be much appreciated!

Run test for 12 weeks. You weigh 150 pounds at 5'7, take test and eat more. You will grow. If you're not lean at 150 then youre not gonna be from the 15-20 pounds you should put on this first cycle. Fuck the Winstrol and dbol

i'm around 14-16%bf at the mo (ive been eating what i want and doing lazy weights for a while) - but i could change that no probs. something i can do is lose weight lol i got myself way down on the bf last summer by cutting out most of the carbs i eat and doing more cardio, sit ups etc. prob around 8% - but lots of people commented i looked ill. although i was actually at my strongest for a while.

Im all for juicing bro but 5'7 150? you should be able to add plenty of size simply by applying yourself and eating more. AAs is a tool to aid in your goals of strength and siaze but using them at thids point is just a waste imo.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Im all for juicing bro but 5'7 150? you should be able to add plenty of size simply by applying yourself and eating more. AAs is a tool to aid in your goals of strength and siaze but using them at thids point is just a waste imo.

good point - i put on a bit of weight 5-6 pounds before - took me about 9 months of eating and weights. must have a fast metabolism cause i'm a greedy bugger lol

may try test cyp on its own first cycle - pct HCG clomid and nolvex as above? any more advice on amounts and when to take for this cycle would be much welcomed

before you start your cyp...100mg clomid for 7 days then 14 days at 50mg...then start your cyp..as far as 500ng weekly...run in cycles of 10 days...your receptors are gonna be so clean you will see great results at low dosage...get some blood work done to see what your levels are at and then again at 4 weeks and adjust accordingly...

I would do it like this.
Wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg per week (bulk here by taking on excess CLEAN calories)
Wk 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
Wk 7-12 Winstrol 50MG ED (cut here by lowering calories and increasing cardio)
Wk 1-12 adex .25mg E3D
THE HCG I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO USE THAT BUT I WOULD START USING IT ABOUT HALF WAY INTO YOUR CYCLE.
End of cycle pct using nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/25/25."

Originally Posted by griggs64

Little bit about myself: Just about to take my first cycle:


"Wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg per week (bulk here by taking on excess CLEAN calories)
Wk 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
Wk 11-16 test cyp 500mg per week (cut here by lowering calories and increasing cardio)
Wk 11-16 winstrol 50mg ED
Wk 3-19 adex .25mg E3D
The day after the last shot/dose of aas start HCG at 1000iu ED for 10 days. (it is important to run adex during this time)
The day after the HCG is done start pct using nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/25/25."

I'm 36, 5.7 - 10.8 stone - i can diet right and i work hard in the gym when i'm in the zone. But size is just something i'm struggling with!!!

Had this cycle suggested to me (as my first) in order to bulk a bit and then cut down and get into shape for the summer! ive been reading extensively and this seems like a well advised first cycle.

Any tips or advice on this would be much appreciated!

WAY TOO MUCH FOR FIRST CYCLE!

Stick with Test Cyp for 12 weeks @ 500mgs. Esp at 5'7 150lbs... Get that diet it check ASAP and lift hard "dont be lazy!"

Originally Posted by tilltheend

I would do it like this.
Wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg per week (bulk here by taking on excess CLEAN calories)
Wk 1-4 dbol 40mg ED
Wk 7-12 Winstrol 50MG ED (cut here by lowering calories and increasing cardio)
Wk 1-12 adex .25mg E3D
THE HCG I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO USE THAT BUT I WOULD START USING IT ABOUT HALF WAY INTO YOUR CYCLE.
End of cycle pct using nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/25/25."

That is way too much for him man. Why give advice on HCG if you dont know how to use it?