Thread: First Cycle - advice.

Hi all, first poster from Aus.

I've only just got back into training after a long (few years) hiatus a few months ago and had an opportunity to get on board (finally found me.) and have put in my first order.

I understand I may get some lip from you guys for for not training consistently for a few years prior to getting on-board, but my dedication; eating and training regimen will remain apt and consistent - will not be an issue. Understand injury prone w/ regards to underdeveloped ligaments/tendons/joints, etc. - will ensure to train smart.

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28 years old
175lbs @ 180cm (bit over 5'11)
~ 12% BF
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1-12 - 500mg Test E (250mg - Mon & Thurs)
6-12 - 40mg Var ED
(.25mg EOD Arimidex, if needed.)

(~ 2wks after cycle before PCT)

6 weeks PCT - Nolva, HCG, Arimidex.


My source (reliable friend) recommended that length for PCT, advised no need for clomid (Nolva will be fine) and will provide a proper dosages to me shortly. Anyone able to provide their suggestions too for comparison?

I was also advised Var wouldn't be entirely necessary, but a 40mg dose ED 6wks to taper off the cycle can potentially help with finial conditioning, so I added it.

For liver protection I also have TUDCA.
Supps; multi, hydrolysed whey isolate, BCAA's.

Any advice is much appreciated. Will continue to update this thread as I progress.

If all goes well, first pin on 16/04.

You should do well with that but be easy on the armidex during your pct, you will need some estrogen. I prefer aromasin as it does not allow the rebound that armidex does. I also prefer adding clomid for pct.

BPP

^^ agree with Bigpoppa

Adex is an extremely strong AI

You want your estrogen levels to regulate during pct - utilizing too much Adex will squash your E levels completely

I don’t PCT anymore but when I did I would use Clomid Nolva and Proviron - I never used Adex

I’m sure others bros have I just can’t speak on it bc I didn’t do it but I do know that Adex is strong and can completely kill E levels if taken in proper doses.


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Agreed with above. Drop the adex and add the clomid.

Clomid tells your sack to get back to producing your own test, this is very important! Years of nolva only pcts let me tell you, I’m on TRT now.


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You guys were correct about no Arimidex during PCT - misunderstood.

It's only during course. He advised a light dose ~0.25 EOD, or could use only if I got sore nipples, etc.

So, would Nolva & HCG suffice for PCT in my case, or definitely add clomid?

@ jjd: who is food?

^ Anyone?

Apologise for the bump.. Starting run Mon 16/04 and want to have everything sorted and peace of mind in peppering the angus.

Run 250iu of hcg twice a week like you described, but do it for the whole cycle. Test 1-12 and hcg 1-14 (the extra 2 weeks while the test is clearing your system). Sure you could shoot the 500mg all at once before your trip. Its not ideal but kind of your only choice. Easy on the adex. Dont crush your e2 right before pct. it looks like you got this pretty dialed in bro! U might not even need the var