Thread: Mast/deca experiences

Originally Posted by Physique25

Hey guys, im a pretty experienced user here and I’m just looking for your personal experience here.

my question is to what degree will mastering keep you dry when teamed with something like deca?

Some backround on me, I’ve used both of these compounds but never together. I compete every few years and tend to only take compounds like mast/tren when I’m shredded so I can’t really pin down the exact effect since diet, and other compounds are always being used in combination. Now I feel like over the past few years I’ve become stagnant so I plan on hoping right into a lean bulk post contest this time. Currently I’m 9 weeks out, and I want to go straight into something like mast/deca because I just hate walking around super fluffy but I need that mass gainer in there.

Was thinking of something like mast/test/deca/eq. A lot of compounds going on there but aiming for moderate dosages mast 200/ test 500/deca 400/ eq 600 and maybe a nice oral to finish. Really just trying to get to a new all tile best. Do you think this will be an effective dose of of mast to alleviate water retention from deca?

mast 500/test 500/npp 500
tail end oral good ol Var

mast at 200 after the ester weight strips off is really something like mid hundred. When going low dose on something always keep ester weight in mind.

Originally Posted by Charger69

I do agree on trying to get a compound to do everything for you like the younger generation wants.
I respectfully disagree on the water retention. Short esthers do not hold as much water as the longer esthers. It is the nature of the esther. I can take NPP for the same period as deca and deca holds much more water.
My experience is that the sides from NPP are significantly different than deca actually less prolactin. Taking deca or NPP and tren and test and you may not need an AI at all. I use to think that this was absurd, but it is indeed a reality. The only thing that will aromatize is the test. NOTE the only real way of telling is bloods.


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Deca or nandrolone in general will aromatise as well, just not at the same rate as test. I will agree that shorter esters tend to hold less water. Theoretically, the ester shouldn't make a difference as it's the same drug once the ester is cleaved off....however I experience this effect myself with things like test prop and NPP. I don't know the science behind it but I know that this claim didn't just come out of thin air. Even bro science theories are based on some form of truth.

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I would run Masterone with any 19 nor cycle you do. Its an antagonist to both estrogen and prolactin receptors (so it helps you stay somewhat dry, protects against gyno, and protects against prolactin sides). it also has a strong affinity to SHBG, which will thus free up more Testosterone for muscle building.

I've ran Mast for years, and use it on almost any cycle I ever do wither bulking or cutting

Not to mention the nice effect it has on libido. It can help counteract any sexual side effects that 19nors carry

Originally Posted by Shadowsyl2012

mast 500/test 500/npp 500
tail end oral good ol Var

mast at 200 after the ester weight strips off is really something like mid hundred. When going low dose on something always keep ester weight in mind.

Agreed. Mast at 500 minimum to get any sort of result. Otherwise it would make more sense just to run Proviron if you're just looking to dry out. Very similar drugs.