Thread: Mast/deca experiences

Hey guys, im a pretty experienced user here and I’m just looking for your personal experience here.

my question is to what degree will mastering keep you dry when teamed with something like deca?

Some backround on me, I’ve used both of these compounds but never together. I compete every few years and tend to only take compounds like mast/tren when I’m shredded so I can’t really pin down the exact effect since diet, and other compounds are always being used in combination. Now I feel like over the past few years I’ve become stagnant so I plan on hoping right into a lean bulk post contest this time. Currently I’m 9 weeks out, and I want to go straight into something like mast/deca because I just hate walking around super fluffy but I need that mass gainer in there.

Was thinking of something like mast/test/deca/eq. A lot of compounds going on there but aiming for moderate dosages mast 200/ test 500/deca 400/ eq 600 and maybe a nice oral to finish. Really just trying to get to a new all tile best. Do you think this will be an effective dose of of mast to alleviate water retention from deca?

Originally Posted by Physique25

Hey guys, im a pretty experienced user here and I’m just looking for your personal experience here.

my question is to what degree will mastering keep you dry when teamed with something like deca?

Some backround on me, I’ve used both of these compounds but never together. I compete every few years and tend to only take compounds like mast/tren when I’m shredded so I can’t really pin down the exact effect since diet, and other compounds are always being used in combination. Now I feel like over the past few years I’ve become stagnant so I plan on hoping right into a lean bulk post contest this time. Currently I’m 9 weeks out, and I want to go straight into something like mast/deca because I just hate walking around super fluffy but I need that mass gainer in there.

Was thinking of something like mast/test/deca/eq. A lot of compounds going on there but aiming for moderate dosages mast 200/ test 500/deca 400/ eq 600 and maybe a nice oral to finish. Really just trying to get to a new all tile best. Do you think this will be an effective dose of of mast to alleviate water retention from deca?

I did something similar however longer. I really do not recommend taking deca less than 8 weeks for special cases. You will be wasting the deca because you will probably stop before it really kicks in.
Try NPP you will not be disappointed and you will not have as much water build up.

Truthfully, I take 12 weeks of cutting to prepare. The one time that I took deca/mast for 8 weeks, I still took 8 weeks of cutting, but I was able to maintain about 11% bf during the bulk. I knew that it was not the most efficient cycle but it did it’s job.

Going back to the original question, I did not worry about the water however I did keep my diet in check. It was my first mast experience and I was hooked. I love mast!

I like mast a lot, I've only ran it with tren and test. I've done a few tren and test cycles and can notice a difference when mast is on board.

Mast is the shit but I started shedding hair like a cat on in.. Never had anything do me like that. Even whinny is light compared to the mast... Had to lay it down... Don't know how it would pair with a bulking / mass drug like deca... Will probably run it again later down the road after I loose all the hair or decide to just shave it.

"I just hate walking around super fluffy but I need that mass gainer in there. Was thinking of something like mast/test/deca/eq."

Ditch the Eq you don't need it. My fav combo for size and cuts is Test/NPP/Tren (Ace) with anavar. And you want to get rid of water retention? Up your Cardio and drink more water.. if you're walking around supper fluffy you either A) haven't got your nutrition dialed in or B) your not getting enough Cardio.

I see too many younger guys these days thinking all they need to do is to jump on a bunch of different gear and they'll be good to go. I've entered Shows taking Test, Deca and Anadrol. Yeah...go figure. Eating 90% protein and veggies- 10% carbs and doing 3 miles of cardio in the morning..then 20-24 sets per body part later in the day, with another 3 miles of Cardio at night. Result? Trophy! Put in the Work if you want the results and quit looking to jump on 5-10 different compounds trying to get the results you want. Also.. check estradiol levels to see if you might need to increase your Arimidex (anastrozole) in your cycle. If your estradiol is up you'll def be holding more water.

BTW if you wanna go with deca over NPP you will feel it Kick in around 3rd week.. that's been my experience using it for decades- it doesn't take 6-8 weeks to work. NPP is the SAME as Deca just shorter ester so it gets into your system faster but you're pinning more frequently. They are the same compound- Nandralone. One does not dry you out better than the other. Only difference is the length of release in your body.

Originally Posted by Charger69

I did something similar however longer. I really do not recommend taking deca less than 8 weeks for special cases. You will be wasting the deca because you will probably stop before it really kicks in.
Try NPP you will not be disappointed and you will not have as much water build up.

Truthfully, I take 12 weeks of cutting to prepare. The one time that I took deca/mast for 8 weeks, I still took 8 weeks of cutting, but I was able to maintain about 11% bf during the bulk. I knew that it was not the most efficient cycle but it did it’s job.

Going back to the original question, I did not worry about the water however I did keep my diet in check. It was my first mast experience and I was hooked. I love mast!

Yeah NPP>DECA. A lot do guys don’t stay in deca to really see the benefits.

Originally Posted by MasterBlaster805

"I just hate walking around super fluffy but I need that mass gainer in there. Was thinking of something like mast/test/deca/eq."

Ditch the Eq you don't need it. My fav combo for size and cuts is Test/NPP/Tren (Ace) with anavar. And you want to get rid of water retention? Up your Cardio and drink more water.. if you're walking around supper fluffy you either A) haven't got your nutrition dialed in or B) your not getting enough Cardio.

I see too many younger guys these days thinking all they need to do is to jump on a bunch of different gear and they'll be good to go. I've entered Shows taking Test, Deca and Anadrol. Yeah...go figure. Eating 90% protein and veggies- 10% carbs and doing 3 miles of cardio in the morning..then 20-24 sets per body part later in the day, with another 3 miles of Cardio at night. Result? Trophy! Put in the Work if you want the results and quit looking to jump on 5-10 different compounds trying to get the results you want. Also.. check estradiol levels to see if you might need to increase your Arimidex (anastrozole) in your cycle. If your estradiol is up you'll def be holding more water.

BTW if you wanna go with deca over NPP you will feel it Kick in around 3rd week.. that's been my experience using it for decades- it doesn't take 6-8 weeks to work. NPP is the SAME as Deca just shorter ester so it gets into your system faster but you're pinning more frequently. They are the same compound- Nandralone. One does not dry you out better than the other. Only difference is the length of release in your body.

I do agree on trying to get a compound to do everything for you like the younger generation wants.
I respectfully disagree on the water retention. Short esthers do not hold as much water as the longer esthers. It is the nature of the esther. I can take NPP for the same period as deca and deca holds much more water.
My experience is that the sides from NPP are significantly different than deca actually less prolactin. Taking deca or NPP and tren and test and you may not need an AI at all. I use to think that this was absurd, but it is indeed a reality. The only thing that will aromatize is the test. NOTE the only real way of telling is bloods.


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Definitely was considering Npp I think I’ll end up
giving this a shot and reporting back.

I would run Masterone with any 19 nor cycle you do. Its an antagonist to both estrogen and prolactin receptors (so it helps you stay somewhat dry, protects against gyno, and protects against prolactin sides). it also has a strong affinity to SHBG, which will thus free up more Testosterone for muscle building.

I've ran Mast for years, and use it on almost any cycle I ever do wither bulking or cutting