3rd Cycle. Pointers? Advice?

[Insanerage69]

Hello. Im 23, Male, 200 Pounds, 12-13 percent body fat. 6 foot. Have a good athletic build.


Cycle:
1-12 Weeks 500mg Test e (2 shots of 250 a week)
1-12 Weeks Proviron 50mg ED
6-12 Weeks 50mg Winstrol Up Doseage to 9-12 Weeks 75mg Winstrol
Clenbeurtol, Every 2 weeks 40/40/60/80/120/120/80/60/40/40/40/20


DISCLAIMER: I know the 6-12 weeks of winstrol is alot... Did it before and my liver is fine. I dont drink really at all, took liver guard everyday along with CLA and Fishoil and Glucosomine.


PCT:
50/50/25/25 Nolvadex
100/50/25/25 Clomid, ( Gives me bad headaches sometimes so I might not run this.


I dont think im missing anything.. IF you have any input at all feel free to post it and give me everything I can. My main goal is to cut. My frame I really cant get a 6 pack i dont think. Ive tried alot and never can happen. Id like to gain some nice lean muscle mass and just get more dry.


One thing is i have a calcium deposit in my left nipple and its hard to tell if gyno. My nips have always been kinda big i dont know i like pepperoni or something.. Anyways I dont think its gyno because it doesnt itch hurt or anything. So thats my cycle for a wrap so hopefully yall can help out!

[TheDep]

Youre missing an AI during your cycle. Dont bother with the proviron. Whats your goal here? If its a cut the diet will focus on that more than anything. Dont bother with the winstrol at 75mg. Actually dont bother with it at all. Id suggest something like turinabol at 40mg for 3 weeks then 60mg for 3 weeks at the START of the cycle. With a correct diet you can build lean but this allows a kickstart while your test ester builds up.

Test E 500mg/week 12 weeks
tbol 40mg/week 1-3
tbol 60mg/week 3-6
Ai aromasin or arimidex weeks 1-12

then pct.

[saywutrly]

Youre missing an AI during your cycle. Dont bother with the proviron. Whats your goal here? If its a cut the diet will focus on that more than anything. Dont bother with the winstrol at 75mg. Actually dont bother with it at all. Id suggest something like turinabol at 40mg for 3 weeks then 60mg for 3 weeks at the START of the cycle. With a correct diet you can build lean but this allows a kickstart while your test ester builds up.

Test E 500mg/week 12 weeks
tbol 40mg/week 1-3
tbol 60mg/week 3-6
Ai aromasin or arimidex weeks 1-12

then pct.

If you don't have the type of personality where you need to see results right away, I'd save the tbol for the end of the cycle. I find that gains are more easily held when orals are used for finishers rather than kickers. Unlike most of what I say, though, this is total anecdote and bro science. It's something I noticed nonetheless.

[Fancycat69]

Looks like a pretty conservative cycle to me. I don’t have much experience with provirion and clen so I can’t get advice there. But you will get a ton of opinions of what is “right” and “wrong”. I’d say you’re not doing anything reckless

[joko123]

I don’t think need proviron for this cycle if you’re gonna use winni the whole time. The problem with winstrol is not the so much the damage it’s gonna do to Tor liver put your lipids are gonna he in the shitterthe whole time. 12 weeks of winstrol you re probably looking at single digit HDL


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[TheDep]

If you don't have the type of personality where you need to see results right away, I'd save the tbol for the end of the cycle. I find that gains are more easily held when orals are used for finishers rather than kickers. Unlike most of what I say, though, this is total anecdote and bro science. It's something I noticed nonetheless.

Its not based upon personality its about maintaining and building off of what you do with your kickstarter. Shit use a short ester like prop or tren ace even for a few weeks but your sitting on dead time for atleast 3 weeks. Myself i love back end orals also but only to show effect. Like winny at the end of a short ester cut. But orals or short esters serve a purpose.