Going to run Test Deca and Tren....

**Plate Smacker** · 06-29-2018, 03:17 PM

First Time running Tren A
Currently running
Test E 600mg/wk
Deca 800mg/wk
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Prami 0.25mg EOD
Cialis 5mg ED

I will be dropping Test E and Deca to 400mg/wk
Introduce Tren A @50mg ED.
See how things go for 2 weeks.
May bump it up to 60mg ED max.

Start in one week.
After 8 weeks, bloodwork with prolactin.

I had no issues at 600mg/wk of Test E and Deca.
No issues right now at current dosage.

So, if an issue arises, I will know it is Tren.
I will adjust Deca dosage lower to 300mg, Test E stays at 400.

Currently no erection or desire problems. I jerk off twice a day and still bang the wife.
Trying to cut back on masterbation lol.
Maybe instead I will do dumbbell curls.

**bigpapapumpaf** · 06-29-2018, 03:59 PM

You should do well with that. You know yourself better than I do but aromasin ED is too much, EOD should be plenty and E3D good for most.

BPP

**Jerry2222** · 06-29-2018, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Plate Smacker

First Time running Tren A
Currently running
Test E 600mg/wk
Deca 800mg/wk
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Prami 0.25mg EOD
Cialis 5mg ED

I will be dropping Test E and Deca to 400mg/wk
Introduce Tren A @50mg ED.
See how things go for 2 weeks.
May bump it up to 60mg ED max.

Start in one week.
After 8 weeks, bloodwork with prolactin.

I had no issues at 600mg/wk of Test E and Deca.
No issues right now at current dosage.

So, if an issue arises, I will know it is Tren.
I will adjust Deca dosage lower to 300mg, Test E stays at 400.

Currently no erection or desire problems. I jerk off twice a day and still bang the wife.
Trying to cut back on masterbation lol.
Maybe instead I will do dumbbell curls.

Deca raised my prolactin more than tren. If you have any problems you can adjust the Prami to .25 ed or .5 ed. Tren if you control prolactin actually increases your sex drive, it’s crazy. Be aware of your mood and know if your irritable it’s the tren that’s my best advic. I hold my tongue on tren. Get some tums for the night time heart burn and sleep on a towel because you’ll leave a sweat imprint of your body on the bed. Lol. Have fun!

**Plate Smacker** · 06-30-2018, 03:31 AM

1g Test E with 6mg ED Aromasin had my Estradiol @31.
I am going to switch to 12.5mg EOD. Keep prami dosage same, see if my nips get sensitive.
If they do just bump up prami to ED

I can take 1mg prami with no problems. Just makes me tired and dry eyes when I wake up.

From research, and others experience... I am gathering higher estrogen is key to bulking on tren.
May just need more aggressive prolactin control.
I will get everything stabilized and get bloodwork.

**bigpapapumpaf** · 06-30-2018, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Plate Smacker

From research, and others experience... I am gathering higher estrogen is key to bulking on tren.
May just need more aggressive prolactin control.
I will get everything stabilized and get bloodwork.

NO! Prolactin and estrogen go hand in hand but are different. The key to growth is not to lower your estrogen too much. Keep it on that ragged edge for the best results. You're lighting a fire but then dumping water on it.

BPP

**Plate Smacker** · 07-01-2018, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf

NO! Prolactin and estrogen go hand in hand but are different. The key to growth is not to lower your estrogen too much. Keep it on that ragged edge for the best results. You're lighting a fire but then dumping water on it.

BPP

You may have misunderstood me. I am saying to keep estrogen higher. Not ridiculous high.... but don't tank it. Some tren kits come with the estradiol pellets to inject in cattle as you know(comes down to timing and other factors)
Some may have issues keeping it slightly elevated...(preferably NORMAL PHYSIOLOGICAL RANGES) so may need to keep it lower.

**bigpapapumpaf** · 07-01-2018, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Plate Smacker

You may have misunderstood me. I am saying to keep estrogen higher. Not ridiculous high.... but don't tank it. Some tren kits come with the estradiol pellets to inject in cattle as you know(comes down to timing and other factors)
Some may have issues keeping it slightly elevated...(preferably NORMAL PHYSIOLOGICAL RANGES) so may need to keep it lower.

Correct.

**raedel** · 07-01-2018, 06:18 PM

Test, tren, and deca is my favorite cycle. Tren seems to flatten me out. If I cut the tren dose and add deca, I stay full and vascular. 300 mg of both tren and deca was good for me. Keep your E2 in check and you should not have any prolactin issues. However, it is a good idea to have caber or prami on hand just in case.

**Plate Smacker** · 07-02-2018, 02:11 PM

I have no issues right now. So lowering the Test E and Deca to 400mg/wk... if I start to get issues, I know it's Tren and progestin related.
I will then just adjust aromasin dosage from 6mg EOD to ED.
I currently take Prami. Had to.
Even keeping estrogen on the low side, 12.5mg Aromasin ED, my nips were a little sensitive. Adding prami fixed that.

Injection day today.
1.4ml Test E/Deca blend I made (210mg each)(twice a week so really around 420mg each a week)
0.5ml (50mg) Tren A

**Plate Smacker** · 07-02-2018, 05:38 PM

Pinned 0.5ml (50mg) right quad with 27G 1". No pain. I got instant stinging and slight pain and soreness with 29G 1/2" in delt. Probably needed to ho deeper. Aldo did not do warm vial bath in sink. It's really thin anyway. It was a little thicker of course than being warmed, which is a good thing.