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      First cycle - Test+(Tbol)

      I ordered a ton of shit from Toraxx, roughly spent 1000$ on a BUNCH of goodies....I got carried away on things I want to try like a fucking fat kid in a candy store! Dr. Clark just emailed me and shipment is going out tomorrow! Awesome! Now to the cycle and stats!

      5'7
      23 years old
      13-14% bf
      164lb

      5x5 lifts:
      deadlift- 335x5
      squat - 365x5
      bench - 245x5


      ON TO THE CYCLE!

      While I know you can get the same amount of gains from Test-E at 500mg I want to add, "TBOL" @ 50mg for 3 weeks and 75mg for last 3 weeks if I feel comfortable in doing so. My idea behind this is, I would like to reap the gains on the 4-6 weeks while the test-E stabilizes in my body. Also, Tbol does not convert to estrogen and it is on the more mild side of orals. Thus, giving me the ability to see how my AI dosing will go as I won't be mixing a aromatizing oral like, say, D-bol. So here is the cycle.


      Test-E - 500mg - 1-12 weeks
      HCG - 500iu - 1-14 weeks(Get off 3 days prior to PCT)
      TBol - 50mg(3 weeks) raise to 75mg last 3 If I feel like I can tolerate it.
      Arimidex .5 EOD(I was thinking about .25 EOD, but rather not even risk the possibility of estrogen building up and I will check E2 levels at week 6)

      drawing with 21x1 pinning with 23x1.5. Mixing 500iu with the 500mg of test every Monday and Thursday.
      Storing the test + Tbol in the medicine cabinet and the HCG in the bottle in the fridge.

      Tudcuh - liver support

      PCT:
      Clomid 50/50/25/25
      Nolva 40/20/20/20
      Mk2866 30mg - 4 weeks

      Just got bloods tests today.
      Total & Free test
      Lipids
      liver
      thyroids

      For any estrogen testing I needed a doctor's pre authorization.

      Questions:

      Gyno protocol: Can I either integrate nolva at 20mg and continue the arimidex at .5EOD until gyno goes away or up arimidex to 1mg EOD until it goes away.

      Is it true even if you recover properly that my(say its 700 test) will never be where it was PRE-CYCLE? Is there any evidence on this? IF so, I can not find it.

      I've heard a 8-10 week cycle is very beneficial, because recovery time is a lot quicker. Although, Your body isn't stabilizing its new gains. I prefer 12, Is there evidence that 8-10 weeks may be better?
      Last edited by Micki420; 07-19-2018 at 07:14 AM.

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