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Originally Posted by
CRC1276
I wanna know who said to never use HCG in PCT? Terribly mistaken. And IMO HCG during cycle does nothing. Except MAYBE cosmetic reasons. Like making your nuts look big. But your still on cycle so it’s pointless. Again just my experience and I’ve only been doing this for 20 years so take it for what it is.
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HCG is not used in post cycle for many reasons. It sends LH signals to your balls, hence your body will not start to produce it on its own. It also aromatizes which can be an issue when u stop injecting and have no natty test. Another reason is, it prolongs recovery of natural HPTA.
”HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.”
With your experience, I’m trying to figure out if hcg use on cycle actually does help you recover faster when ur in pct? Have you noticed a recovery difference when you used it in cycle than not?
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HCG are great for pct only if you stack with another compound, if your only on test enanthate or cypionate you need around 2 weeks to start the compound for stabilize the natural test.
For exemple
- first weeks with 1 injection every 3 days ( 3 weeks are good but everyone are different ) with HCG creat spade
- followed by 3-4 weeks with 3 injections per week of HMG to stimulate and stabilize the LH & FSH
But everyone is different, when i used nandrolone decanoate the pct was longer vs simply test / boldenone cycle for exemple.
Yes HCG aromatize a lot, some people use Nolvadex with stacked with creat success.
Originally Posted by
Micki420
HCG is not used in post cycle for many reasons. It sends LH signals to your balls, hence your body will not start to produce it on its own. It also aromatizes which can be an issue when u stop injecting and have no natty test. Another reason is, it prolongs recovery of natural HPTA.
â€HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.â€
With your experience, I’m trying to figure out if hcg use on cycle actually does help you recover faster when ur in pct? Have you noticed a recovery difference when you used it in cycle than not?
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Originally Posted by
lundgren
HCG are great for pct only if you stack with another compound, if your only on test enanthate or cypionate you need around 2 weeks to start the compound for stabilize the natural test.
For exemple
- first weeks with 1 injection every 3 days ( 3 weeks are good but everyone are different ) with HCG
creat spade
- followed by 3-4 weeks with 3 injections per week of HMG
to stimulate and stabilize the LH & FSH
But everyone is different, when i used nandrolone decanoate the pct was longer vs simply test / boldenone cycle for exemple.
Yes HCG aromatize a lot, some people use Nolvadex with stacked with creat success.
Hcg should NEVER be administered within pct. yes, you can run an AI with clomid and Nolvadex to combat estrogen rebound, but Hcg can become suppressive. During pct it will prolong you recovery. It suppresses your natural LH and FSH during pct. so, this meaning, it only mimics LH and fsh. Your body thinks it’s already producing these hormones. Once u get off the Hcg and ur pct. LH and fsh will drop and you’ll recover on your own now. Best course of running Hcg is weeks 1-14 on a 12 weeks cycle. 250iu 2x EW and 2 weeks during your water clearance. Last injection 3-4 days before PCT.
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
Hcg should NEVER be administered within pct. yes, you can run an AI with clomid and Nolvadex to combat estrogen rebound, but Hcg can become suppressive. During pct it will prolong you recovery. It suppresses your natural LH and FSH during pct. so, this meaning, it only mimics LH and fsh. Your body thinks it’s already producing these hormones. Once u get off the Hcg and ur pct. LH and fsh will drop and you’ll recover on your own now. Best course of running Hcg is weeks 1-14 on a 12 weeks cycle. 250iu 2x EW and 2 weeks during your water clearance. Last injection 3-4 days before PCT.
So you know better than endocrinologist doctors?
How many years of study do you have? How many patients did you follow?
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Because the CGA or HCG are in the protocol, associated with other treatment like HMG to restore the disorder created by taking AAS.
Bye !
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