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Originally Posted by
kubes
I didn’t go through and read all the posts but if your planning to cycle and not cruse and blast then running hcg during your cycle will help with recovery because instead of your testies being completely shut down during the administration of exogenous test your testies will continue to function. Think of it like a car battery if you just st let it sit there it wears out faster then if your using it. Using a small amount of hcg like 250 is 2xew will have more benefit then not
Sadly, my bact water hasn't come in yet and I wanted to start tomorrow...So, I was thinking just going with the route of getting on HCG week 11. to get my balls back to size prior to PCT. Have you tried that method at all?
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
Sadly, my bact water hasn't come in yet and I wanted to start tomorrow...So, I was thinking just going with the route of getting on HCG week 11. to get my balls back to size prior to PCT. Have you tried that method at all?
Just make your own bac water. I quick google search will show you how. Its simple. You could do the method of hcg at the end of your cycle but why if you can do option one?
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
LowT Thank you for your insight and experience through the years. This helps myself and new members alike. That is my current PCT as well with adding Mk2866 at 25/25/15/10 for 4 weeks.
When you were on HCG during cycle did you think you recovered faster Post cycle than you did without it during cycle?
NP, anytime. I don't know anything about that MK2866. Well, the HCG, Nolva and Clomid were all added at the same time during same cycle and I continued to use it til I started blasting and cruising. But yes, recovery was much better.
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HCG are great for pct only if you stack with another compound, if your only on test enanthate or cypionate you need around 2 weeks to start the compound for stabilize the natural test.
For exemple
- first weeks with 1 injection every 3 days ( 3 weeks are good but everyone are different ) with HCG 
creat spade
- followed by 3-4 weeks with 3 injections per week of HMG to stimulate and stabilize the LH & FSH
But everyone is different, when i used nandrolone decanoate the pct was longer vs simply test / boldenone cycle for exemple.
Yes HCG aromatize a lot, some people use Nolvadex with stacked with creat success.
Originally Posted by
Micki420
HCG is not used in post cycle for many reasons. It sends LH signals to your balls, hence your body will not start to produce it on its own. It also aromatizes which can be an issue when u stop injecting and have no natty test. Another reason is, it prolongs recovery of natural HPTA.
”HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.”
With your experience, I’m trying to figure out if hcg use on cycle actually does help you recover faster when ur in pct? Have you noticed a recovery difference when you used it in cycle than not?
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I have always used HCG during my cycle for the last 20 years. Seemed more sensible to keep something working then trying to restart it. There are many benifits besides just the cosmetic ones. Many people notice better moods, libido, it keeps the P450 pathway open for shuttling cholesterol down stream for making other hormones. It will give you a little more T as well in your system and maybe some E2 but not as much as the dosage of Test that most guys take does. At least according to the blood work I have had taken over the years.
Last edited by balin; 07-23-2018 at 02:46 PM.
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I remember dogcrapp saying a lot of pros he has worked with take HCG the night before their testosterone injection to keep their natural test production up. He said thats key to getting huge, keeping your balls up.
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I run hcg every 3 days on my cycle and will only use hcg in my pct meaning Im just continuing the hcg once all hormones clear I will continue the hcg for another month and slow lower the dose to nothing then right back to natural .
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Originally Posted by
kubes
Just make your own bac water. I quick google search will show you how. It’s simple. You could do the method of hcg at the end of your cycle but why if you can do option one?
Well, as I’ve researched. Prolonged usage of Hcg. Above 8 weeks has the potential to desensitize your body to the production of LH. If I remember correctly, HCG tricks you brain to send signals to produce it in your body. As, prolonged useage it was stating that you body can have issues producing the signal on its own. I don’t know how much truth is in it, but it’s interesting to know the possibilities.
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Originally Posted by
lundgren
HCG are great for pct only if you stack with another compound, if your only on test enanthate or cypionate you need around 2 weeks to start the compound for stabilize the natural test.
For exemple
- first weeks with 1 injection every 3 days ( 3 weeks are good but everyone are different ) with HCG
creat spade
- followed by 3-4 weeks with 3 injections per week of HMG
to stimulate and stabilize the LH & FSH
But everyone is different, when i used nandrolone decanoate the pct was longer vs simply test / boldenone cycle for exemple.
Yes HCG aromatize a lot, some people use Nolvadex with stacked with creat success.
Hcg should NEVER be administered within pct. yes, you can run an AI with clomid and Nolvadex to combat estrogen rebound, but Hcg can become suppressive. During pct it will prolong you recovery. It suppresses your natural LH and FSH during pct. so, this meaning, it only mimics LH and fsh. Your body thinks it’s already producing these hormones. Once u get off the Hcg and ur pct. LH and fsh will drop and you’ll recover on your own now. Best course of running Hcg is weeks 1-14 on a 12 weeks cycle. 250iu 2x EW and 2 weeks during your water clearance. Last injection 3-4 days before PCT.
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Originally Posted by
robthomas
I run hcg every 3 days on my cycle and will only use hcg in my pct meaning I’m just continuing the hcg once all hormones clear I will continue the hcg for another month and slow lower the dose to nothing then right back to natural .
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i feel that is one of the better courses to take Hcg. From the beginning of cycle up until right before pct. have you looked into Hcg prolonged usage desensitizing LH?
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