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      HCG on cycle or not?

      Im doing my first cycle soon at 500mg of test, so this is crucial for me. As most of us know, HCG has been discussed and some recommend to take it ON-CYCLE in 1 of 2 ways

      first method:
      weeks 1-14(off 3 days before pct) dosed at 250iu 2x a week.

      second method:

      weeks 11-14(off 3 days before pct) dozed at 250iu 2x a week.

      my question:
      while we all should know HCG should never be used In PCT. most suggest the first method from what I’ve seen, but I’ve read countless times, prolonging HCG usage can desensitize your body to LH since HCG mimics LH production.

      SHOULD HCG BE USED ON CYCLE AT ALL?

      IF SO, which method do you believe is best? The more I read I believe method 2 is best as it will cut the time you’re on hcg and mimic LH function and return balls to size prior to pct.

      your input is welcomed and appreciated. Thank you!

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      Everyone's different. I used to run first method every cycle and all was good. And yes, I stopped 3-5 days prior to PCT.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LowT View Post
      Everyone's different. I used to run first method every cycle and all was good. And yes, I stopped 3-5 days prior to PCT.
      Thank you! The information you provide can help me and a lot of new users!
      how is your recovery post-cycle without it?
      did you ever see recovery take slightly longer after a couple cycles using it so much?

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      I wanna know who said to never use HCG in PCT? Terribly mistaken. And IMO HCG during cycle does nothing. Except MAYBE cosmetic reasons. Like making your nuts look big. But your still on cycle so it’s pointless. Again just my experience and I’ve only been doing this for 20 years so take it for what it is.


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      Quote Originally Posted by CRC1276 View Post
      I wanna know who said to never use HCG in PCT? Terribly mistaken. And IMO HCG during cycle does nothing. Except MAYBE cosmetic reasons. Like making your nuts look big. But your still on cycle so it’s pointless. Again just my experience and I’ve only been doing this for 20 years so take it for what it is.


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      HCG is not used in post cycle for many reasons. It sends LH signals to your balls, hence your body will not start to produce it on its own. It also aromatizes which can be an issue when u stop injecting and have no natty test. Another reason is, it prolongs recovery of natural HPTA.

      HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.”

      With your experience, I’m trying to figure out if hcg use on cycle actually does help you recover faster when ur in pct? Have you noticed a recovery difference when you used it in cycle than not?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Micki420 View Post
      Thank you! The information you provide can help me and a lot of new users!
      how is your recovery post-cycle without it?
      did you ever see recovery take slightly longer after a couple cycles using it so much?
      I started using AAS in winter of 1996. Basic Test E (Testosterona) at 500mgs EW just like recommended today. Gradually got into deca (3rd cycle) for a couple cycles, then got a little crazy for a few years.
      Anyway, back then PCT consisted of creatine and hella reps. And I mean A LOT of reps, cleaner diet and cardio. I always bounced back really good and couldn't wait for another cycle. I can't remember exactly when I started using adex and HCG. It was about 10-12 years ago and I know I started them at the same time. I was turned onto these years the same two guys (Powerlifters, one a nurse and one an emt) that took care of me on the AAS and looked out for me. They told me what dosages to take, when to start, when to stop. Did everything they said, got bloods a few times, and all good.
      I'm a guy that doesn't try to fix something that's not broken. Naturally though, when a gram of test with some deca I'll increase the dosage and go to EOD instead of e3d. And it works for me.
      The only time I really dragged during PCT was when I ran extremely long cycles with several compounds. More is not always better.
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      Honestly I have never used it on cycle. Only coming off. Along with Nolva and clamor I find my boys recover faster and I keep most of my gains. Again everyone is different though so I had to find what works best for me. I am very curious how it would work during a cycle. I’m actually going to be starting up again soon so maybe I’ll give it a shot and see what I experience. I just think a lot of what we do has to be what works best for us. Same with gh, some guys respond great with 2iu daily while others have to use more. Don’t be afraid to experiment. That’s what I’ve done and will continue to do. Of course there are some common sense rules so we don’t kill our self or ruin our natural hormone production for life.


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      Quote Originally Posted by LowT View Post
      I started using AAS in winter of 1996. Basic Test E (Testosterona) at 500mgs EW just like recommended today. Gradually got into deca (3rd cycle) for a couple cycles, then got a little crazy for a few years.
      Anyway, back then PCT consisted of creatine and hella reps. And I mean A LOT of reps, cleaner diet and cardio. I always bounced back really good and couldn't wait for another cycle. I can't remember exactly when I started using adex and HCG. It was about 10-12 years ago and I know I started them at the same time. I was turned onto these years the same two guys (Powerlifters, one a nurse and one an emt) that took care of me on the AAS and looked out for me. They told me what dosages to take, when to start, when to stop. Did everything they said, got bloods a few times, and all good.
      I'm a guy that doesn't try to fix something that's not broken. Naturally though, when a gram of test with some deca I'll increase the dosage and go to EOD instead of e3d. And it works for me.
      The only time I really dragged during PCT was when I ran extremely long cycles with several compounds. More is not always better.
      My PCT(basic cycle):
      Nolva 40/40/20/20
      Clomid 50/50/25/25
      LowT Thank you for your insight and experience through the years. This helps myself and new members alike. That is my current PCT as well with adding Mk2866 at 25/25/15/10 for 4 weeks.

      When you were on HCG during cycle did you think you recovered faster Post cycle than you did without it during cycle?

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      Quote Originally Posted by CRC1276 View Post
      Honestly I have never used it on cycle. Only coming off. Along with Nolva and clamor I find my boys recover faster and I keep most of my gains. Again everyone is different though so I had to find what works best for me. I am very curious how it would work during a cycle. I’m actually going to be starting up again soon so maybe I’ll give it a shot and see what I experience. I just think a lot of what we do has to be what works best for us. Same with gh, some guys respond great with 2iu daily while others have to use more. Don’t be afraid to experiment. That’s what I’ve done and will continue to do. Of course there are some common sense rules so we don’t kill our self or ruin our natural hormone production for life.


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      This is the hardest thing for a new user and wanting to start a cycle, the fear of experimenting and not knowing if its the best way. I am leaning towards doing HCG weeks 11-14(off 3 days before pct) I assume my balls with become plump again and it will be a faster transition going into recovery. Is that how you used it? last 2 weeks of cycle, then during the ester clearing 2 weeks?

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      I didn’t go through and read all the posts but if your planning to cycle and not cruse and blast then running hcg during your cycle will help with recovery because instead of your testies being completely shut down during the administration of exogenous test your testies will continue to function. Think of it like a car battery if you just st let it sit there it wears out faster then if your using it. Using a small amount of hcg like 250 is 2xew will have more benefit then not
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