Thread: Novice Bulk cycle help!

Hey guys I've been wanting to plan a 8 week bulk cycle throughout the winter.

My stats are:
6 1
190lbs
13 bf

Not the most impressive but I've come along way from being a skinny fat kid with 0 strength and 0 muscle.


Anyway my last cycle was:
Tren e 200mg/weekly
Test e 500mg/weekly

Did this for 16 weeks. I built my way up to those levels just in case the tren sides were to much.
I really liked how the tren cut me up.

But now its time to pack on some muscle.

I will be eating around 3600 calories a day. I've been doing this with a 16/8 fast for the past 3 weeks.
Since I'm not experienced enough to build my own stack I was hoping the brothers could throw me some ideas.
What's worked for you in the past?
What's good for beginners?
Any help is appreciated.
Keep in mind this will be my 3rd cycle.
Thanks in advance men!

Good ol test and deca is awlays good for a bulk. I always liked a little lower test than deca, seems to keep sides down. If you are CONSISTENT with those calories you will make gains on any amount of gear. I like how you did a moderate trn cycle rather than jumping balls deep.

Originally Posted by Amjodor

Good ol test and deca is awlays good for a bulk. I always liked a little lower test than deca, seems to keep sides down. If you are CONSISTENT with those calories you will make gains on any amount of gear. I like how you did a moderate trn cycle rather than jumping balls deep.

Do you think deca would be a waste only using it for 8 weeks?

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Originally Posted by BombdotCom

Do you think deca would be a waste only using it for 8 weeks?

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Yes. If you're only running an 8 week cycle, swap deca out for NPP.

Originally Posted by One Hairy SOB

Yes. If you're only running an 8 week cycle, swap deca out for NPP.

Okay so that's the short ester? What test would you run? Sus?

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Originally Posted by Downtown

Test phynl prop, npp. 8 weeks, EOD shots.

What doses would you recommend?

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Originally Posted by BombdotCom

Okay so that's the short ester? What test would you run? Sus?

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Test is test, only difference is the time it takes to clear your system. If you're running an 8 week bulking cycle, I'd run the protocol below.

Pinning EOD
8 weeks
1- 8 Test P - 400mg per week
1 - 8 NPP - 400mg per week
1 - 4 Dbol 40mg ED

PCT - 3 days after last pin to start PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Add a AI if needed. 12.5mg of Aromasin or 0.5mg of Arimidex EOD. Choose one or the other and adjust according to your needs.

If you're running an oral, add an on cycle support. I'm a big fan of 5% Liver and Organ Defender. Shouldn't be necessary, but you can add TUDCA as well. 250mg twice a day. Dose ancillaries and orals a couple hours apart.

There's a bunch of ways you can cut this cycle. This is just my personal preference.

Originally Posted by One Hairy SOB

Test is test, only difference is the time it takes to clear your system. If you're running an 8 week bulking cycle, I'd run the protocol below.

Pinning EOD
8 weeks
1- 8 Test P - 400mg per week
1 - 8 NPP - 400mg per week
1 - 4 Dbol 40mg ED

PCT - 3 days after last pin to start PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Add a AI if needed. 12.5mg of Aromasin or 0.5mg of Arimidex EOD. Choose one or the other and adjust according to your needs.

If you're running an oral, add an on cycle support. I'm a big fan of 5% Liver and Organ Defender. Shouldn't be necessary, but you can add TUDCA as well. 250mg twice a day. Dose ancillaries and orals a couple hours apart.

There's a bunch of ways you can cut this cycle. This is just my personal preference.

Awesome thanks for getting into such great detail . This is exactly what I was looking for!

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Picture perfect cycle and pct.

What do u think about doing a little front loading for the first week as a jump start.

Yes im aware thats what the dbol is for and that the short esters don't require it.

But 8 weeks is just too damn short for a bulk lmao.

Originally Posted by One Hairy SOB

Test is test, only difference is the time it takes to clear your system. If you're running an 8 week bulking cycle, I'd run the protocol below.

Pinning EOD
8 weeks
1- 8 Test P - 400mg per week
1 - 8 NPP - 400mg per week
1 - 4 Dbol 40mg ED

PCT - 3 days after last pin to start PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Add a AI if needed. 12.5mg of Aromasin or 0.5mg of Arimidex EOD. Choose one or the other and adjust according to your needs.

If you're running an oral, add an on cycle support. I'm a big fan of 5% Liver and Organ Defender. Shouldn't be necessary, but you can add TUDCA as well. 250mg twice a day. Dose ancillaries and orals a couple hours apart.

There's a bunch of ways you can cut this cycle. This is just my personal preference.

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