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    Thread: 3rd cycle ideas

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      3rd cycle ideas

      New to BOP but i can tell i will be posting here a lot. Im 22 years old 5'9 215. Been training seriously for four years now. My lifts are Bench 385 Deadlift 495 Squat 455. I have done two previous cycles and was very pleased with the results.

      Cycle 1
      Test E 500mg/w 12 weeks
      Superdrol 30mg/d first 4 weeks

      Cycle 2
      Test C 500mg/w 14 weeks
      Deca 250mg/w 12 weeks
      D-bol 30mg/d first 5 weeks

      PCT for both
      Nolvadex 40/40/20/10/10

      For my third cycle i was thinking
      500mg Test E/w 15 weeks
      400mg Tren E/w 12 weeks
      50mg Anadrol/d first 5 weeks

      I have two questions. Is that a good first time dose for the Tren? While on my first cycle i didn't have any acne but during my second cycle back acne was horrible! I was embarrassed to take off my shirt it was so bad. Was the deca to blame? Or is this just something I'm join to have to deal with if i plan on continuing my use of steroids?

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      I ran anadrol earlier this month for a power lifting meet and then had blood work done two weeks ago. the stuff did a number on my liver.
      I won't do it again. And this was with livcare and loads of water intake. But I was doing 100mg ed.
      However I did come in 2nd overall in the competition with a total of 1975lbs for my squat, dead, and bench.
      The stuff definately packs the water weight on and increases strength like nothing else.

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      I would use Tren A instead of E because if your sides are bad it will get out of your system a lot faster being that its your first time with Tren

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ttownmudder View Post
      I would use Tren A instead of E because if your sides are bad it will get out of your system a lot faster being that its your first time with Tren
      What he said. 350mg a week is a good starting dose. 50mg everyday or 100mg eod. And if you run tren a, you could also try out test prop/test ace.

      As for the acne, I'm not saying deca is to blame, but my back broke the fuck out when I went from 400mg-600mg, BUT I had also upped my test at the same time.

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      ok i will use Tren A instead. I have no idea what the sides will be so i will stick with the shorter ester. Will antibiotics help with the acne? Is accutane a last resort?

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      The sides of Tren can be wicked and depend on the User but look out for Insomnia, night sweats, anxiety, aggression,high blood pressure, wild dreams .....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ttownmudder View Post
      The sides of Tren can be wicked and depend on the User but look out for Insomnia, night sweats, anxiety, aggression,high blood pressure, wild dreams .....
      ^^^^all of this...the insomnia is the worst for me. Usually got no more than 2-3 hrs sleep..had to nap or I would never have made it to the gym. And like bufbiker said, a-boms are rough and you should def be on top of your blood pressure and get a blood test done mid way. Even with protector my liver values were thru the roof and my bp wasn't any better and I was only runnin 50mg a day....just not for me anymore..be careful bro
      PAIN DON'T HURT

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      No tren for me either, unsafe bp, a little crazy and my wife thinks I'm a sexual predator too. Lol
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      • Masters Degree in Exercise Physiology
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      I am running tren and prop, with masteron, right now...aggressive as fuck, night sweats, not too much insomnia, not bad acne (btw, test usually influences that acne, but any rise/fall in hormones can attribute to this as well)...I recommend 300mg prop, 300mg tren ace, per week, or 100mg of each eod...some ppl like the ed shot, with 1/2cc, but I prefer pinning every other day...muscles are hard as hell right now (I'm sitting in class as we speak and can feel how pumped/hard they are without working out today lol), and strength is great...I like tren alot tho, so I will always recommend it if you can tolerate it lol

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      i too recommend tren, i ran tren e my first run with it but started low dosage first 2 weeks and built up to see what i could handle but they are right its much safer to run tren a ur first time and i now realize this. my insomnia is weird i still sleep 6-8 hours a night but i wake up at least every 1.5-2 hours lol night sweats are a regular thing so get ready to wash your sheets a lot lol. gluck bro!

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