Thread: Needing help

These are my recommendations.
It's obvious your young, I will spare you the "too young speech".
However, I only recommend Deca for those who blast and cruise. Otherwise running Deca you will need to alter your PCT protocol due to Deca's longer clearance time due to natural testosterone still being suppressed after normal PCT protocol.

Gear is not magic. It provides the environmentfor growth, but you have to go hard at everything.
Don't expect 20-30lbs of solid mass. That comes with time. Mature muscle that stays with you, that you carry around, that makes you look jacked without getting pumped up, takes time. Genetics will determine that, even more important training and diet.

I don't recommend any orals first cycle.
You won't know if it's your oral dosing, or your AI dosing, if you run into issues.
Dbol is the worst idea and causes many problems. It converts to a stronger form of estrogen (speaking in simple terms here). You need to see how you respond to Testosterone and dial in you AI so you know how much to use at a given dosage. Even then, after 8 weeks of constant Test and AI dose, get bloodwork.
Everyone is different, and responds different.

There is alot more I could throw at you.
I recommend alot of reading and research and never stop. You will see first hand accounts may be different from the science. You will see that your experience is possibly very different from others.

Example: First Test E cycle I ran 24 weeks. Started at 500mg and ramped up to 1gram. Even tried 150mg ED.
First Deca I ramped up to 800mg I believe (pretty fast), then settled with 600mg (takes time for change in dosage to be consistent blood levels)
My first Tren Ace cycle I started at 50mg ED, ended at 80mg ED. I found my sweet spot to be 60mg ED. I could take 50mg ED and still get good results though.
I even dropped my Test E to 420mg/wk with Tren A @70mg ED and noticed a big decrease in shoulder acne sebum production (i don't get bad acne, but it was there).

So I did not listen to common wisdom. I am my own experiment. Just make sure you have everything in line and on hand.

A perfect example of how everyone is different.
I can take 1mg of Pramipexole and I will just get sleepy and fall asleep. Others have taken only 0.25mg and thought they were going to die, swore to never use it again.
If your going to run Deca you will want a DA (Dopamine Antagonist). Screw listening to anyone that says "well if you keep your estrogen under control, you don't need it".
Ok, fine and dandy, but for inexperienced, they may not know where that is, or may add an otal loke dbol which could exasperate the issue. Some of my good bros on here told me that, but I am glad I had it or I would have been screwed.

Anyway, there are hundreds of ways to go about this.
Hopefully the one you choose works.
Some may disagree with something I have said.

I brew all my own gear and mix my orals myself. I have many threads with detailed process. Temperate control is important. I discuss effective thermometer stem coverage in a couple of threads.
HOWEVER, I recommend Finished Product first.
WHY? to see if this is the path for you.
If it is, brewing is easy.
RESIST THE URGE TO MAKE SOME EASY MONEY BY DEALING!. Never tell anyone you make it yourself.

THEN READ THIS!
K.I.S.S. All newbies read

Finally: The first rule of Gear club is to never talk about Gear club. It is a controlled substance. If anyone asks, your natty bro. That is how I roll.

If U gain 10lb of lean solid keepable muscle u have done good. The muscle is what matters not the overall weight, water.
I don't use the scale much, I use the mirror or my wife's opinion!!
Don't b in a huge rush this shit is a marathon not a sprint.
Patience, Hard Work, & Dedication is key.
Now Get to the Grind!!