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      I need help/motivation

      I had my blood work done, very low HDL, high LDL, and high triglycerides. Which was expected and I'm taking medication to correct that. However I'm almost 44 years old and my testosterone levels came back at 434 and free was in the low range too, 63.5. My doctor, of course, says it's in the normal range and I should just accept it. But I don't like feeling like shit all the time, no energy at all, no sex drive, ed issues, no gains in the gym, depression, anxiety, mood swings, super slow healing from a muscle injury, and 0 motivation to go to the gym or anywhere really.

      So I ordered some test-c, arimidex, and all the needles and syringes. I'm ready to start. But I just can't see to bring myself to do it. Not afraid of the needles, they don't bother me. I know where and how to inject. I'm not too sure on what dose I should start with, and I know once I pin the first injection my anxiety is going to skyrocket thinking I made a mistake by injecting some foreign substance into my body that was made in a home lab somewhere that could have something in it that isn't what should be in it. Then I'll be stressed out for a few days. I don't know how long it will take to feel the effects.

      I've read so many conflicting things and watch so many conflicting youtube videos. Some say it's the fountain of youth, others say the side effects are horrible. I want to feel better. I want to look better. But I have enough problems without adding to them with side effects of injecting test, if there are any. And it's not like when you take a Niacin for the first time and your skin is on fire for a couple hours, this stuff stays in your system for 7-10 days.

      And I still have so many questions. What if I use too much or too little? What if I decide it's not for me after a week, did I already shutdown my own system? Should I get some hcg first?

      Sorry for the long post and all the questions, but I've done my research and one person or site says one thing, then another says something totally different.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Danx43 View Post
      I had my blood work done, very low HDL, high LDL, and high triglycerides. Which was expected and I'm taking medication to correct that. However I'm almost 44 years old and my testosterone levels came back at 434 and free was in the low range too, 63.5. My doctor, of course, says it's in the normal range and I should just accept it. But I don't like feeling like shit all the time, no energy at all, no sex drive, ed issues, no gains in the gym, depression, anxiety, mood swings, super slow healing from a muscle injury, and 0 motivation to go to the gym or anywhere really.

      So I ordered some test-c, arimidex, and all the needles and syringes. I'm ready to start. But I just can't see to bring myself to do it. Not afraid of the needles, they don't bother me. I know where and how to inject. I'm not too sure on what dose I should start with, and I know once I pin the first injection my anxiety is going to skyrocket thinking I made a mistake by injecting some foreign substance into my body that was made in a home lab somewhere that could have something in it that isn't what should be in it. Then I'll be stressed out for a few days. I don't know how long it will take to feel the effects.

      I've read so many conflicting things and watch so many conflicting youtube videos. Some say it's the fountain of youth, others say the side effects are horrible. I want to feel better. I want to look better. But I have enough problems without adding to them with side effects of injecting test, if there are any. And it's not like when you take a Niacin for the first time and your skin is on fire for a couple hours, this stuff stays in your system for 7-10 days.

      And I still have so many questions. What if I use too much or too little? What if I decide it's not for me after a week, did I already shutdown my own system? Should I get some hcg first?

      Sorry for the long post and all the questions, but I've done my research and one person or site says one thing, then another says something totally different.
      Dan, relax bro. Starting this way of life isn’t an easy thing, in fact, it’s a big decision. Some of us chose this way of life for similar reason, others for more vanity and or competitive athlete reasons.

      Whatever the case may be, WE collectively understand that no AAS can will give us everything we need or want.

      Eat clean, focus, hit the gym CONSISTENTLY and be cool.

      When I started this path, I started on Test E 200 mg a week TRT which was medical grade. I gradually increased over a few months time to 500 mg a week and saw serious gains.




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      I'm not so worried about making gains in the gym, i'm a bit overweight as it is, but it would be nice to look better. I'm mostly concerned with the lack of energy and always feeling like shit. I eat right and was hitting the gym at least 5 days a week until I hurt my shoulder on the bench press, not even able to do 1 plate. My doctor said it's a muscle injury and it will heal in time, but it's been a couple months and still hasn't healed at all. The hope is that increasing my test levels would help increase recovery time on that as well. I've been on benzo's for years because of anxiety, I'd love to get off them since I've read that low T can cause anxiety and depression, which I have both. The side effects of the benzo's, in my mind, far outweigh the risk of side effects of a trt dose of test.

      I did a trial run last night, had my gear all setup, was right to the point of pinning, then noticed my hand was shaking and eventually pussed out. I know that if I do it, it could change me mentally for the better and could be a life changer for me. But I also know that it could make things worse. And I don't know what dose to start at. There is basically no data out there that shows even a general idea of how much I'd need to pin in order to get my test levels to 800-1000. I know it's different for everyone.

      Eventually, if I can get up the balls to do it and I don't have any side effects, I'll up the dose enough to make progress in the gym. Or add another compound for that. But it's that first step that's holding me back.

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      The first 3 problems u listed can most likely be corrected with diet...which would be better for you. If u are looking for just a TRT dose (which is what it sounds like) and not interested in running a cycle right now....start with 150 to 200/wk (that should put u around 800--1000)

      If u have E or C Test split your dose into 2 injections per week. Do blood work after 3--4 weeks to determine whether u need an AI or not. Ideally u want a dose that gets u where u want to be without an AI...but if that line cant be found, then dial in an AI dose, per blood work. Its a process to learn yourself and doses, reactions...but once done,,, youll be better off. U mentioned carrying some weight, so u may need one until u can drop some bf. Diet change will do that for you, would be good for the TRT and cycle.

      Drop the benchpress for your injury, do chest machine/db's, etc...work around it. Thats pretty much what I had to do. Any kind of med u can get OFF of...do it!! Any side effects of TRT can easily be managed.

      And yes, smart move wanting to dial in TRT dose, etc b4 upping for a cycle.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Delta5 View Post
      The first 3 problems u listed can most likely be corrected with diet...which would be better for you. If u are looking for just a TRT dose (which is what it sounds like) and not interested in running a cycle right now....start with 150 to 200/wk (that should put u around 800--1000)

      If u have E or C Test split your dose into 2 injections per week. Do blood work after 3--4 weeks to determine whether u need an AI or not. Ideally u want a dose that gets u where u want to be without an AI...but if that line cant be found, then dial in an AI dose, per blood work. Its a process to learn yourself and doses, reactions...but once done,,, youll be better off. U mentioned carrying some weight, so u may need one until u can drop some bf. Diet change will do that for you, would be good for the TRT and cycle.

      Drop the benchpress for your injury, do chest machine/db's, etc...work around it. Thats pretty much what I had to do. Any kind of med u can get OFF of...do it!! Any side effects of TRT can easily be managed.

      And yes, smart move wanting to dial in TRT dose, etc b4 upping for a cycle.
      I have fixed my diet and have lost about 20lbs so far, want to drop another 10-15. The injury is my shoulder, which make most weight lifting hard to do without causing more issues with it. I do have Arimidex if there are any estrogen issues. I have test-c 250mg, so I'll start with .4 or .5 twice a week. That should bump my total test levels to more than double what they are now which should make me feel better. After the weight is gone and I'm ready to start building up my body, I'll work on cycling something else or just do the blast/cruise thing with higher doses of test. I'm not interested in being an athlete or bodybuilder, but would be nice to look good in a tshirt.

      I'm on Klonopin for anxiety, if the increased test can help with the anxiety and I can quit the klonopin, I'll be WAY better off. I'm single, so not so worried about my lack of sex drive. But would be nice to have that back as well. I've read a lot of people talk about morning wood being an indicator of something being wrong. I haven't experienced morning wood in a couple years. Before that it was very often. Makes me think my test levels dropped pretty dramatically in the last couple years.

      I also have some mood issues, anger mostly. I never had that before. Hopefully increasing my test levels doesn't increase that but help me stabilize my mood.

      Of course that all depends on if I can get the balls to pin the first time. Maybe I'll pin and immediately go out drinking or something, then I won't be stressing about it.
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      Okay, I did it. No pain, not that I was worried about it. But unlike last night, I didn't just hover the needle over me with my hand shaking until I pussed out. This time I just got everything ready and went for it. Did a quad injection. I filmed it in case I die or something, people can go back and see my biggest mistake, or I can look back in a couple weeks feeling great and remember my best decision. I went with .5ml of 250mg test-c. If all goes well and I have no effects from it, I'll pin again on Wednesday.

      Now I really need a drink, so going out to celebrate not being a pussy anymore. I have Arimidex and slight gyno already, so I think my esterogen levels are too high, that was never tested. I only have 1mg capsules, is that too high? Or just take one a week or something?

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      Bro you have serious anxiety issues that are effecting everything you do. You also show signs of hypochondria. Relax and make sure this is something you can do and not drive yourself crazy. Get tested for estro so you can dial in "sweet spot". Arimidex half life is about 50 hrs so try running that 1mg E3D and adjust. That's where I'd start. You may need more or less dependent on your personal reaction. Always start lower and adjust up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by swolesoul View Post
      Bro you have serious anxiety issues that are effecting everything you do. You also show signs of hypochondria. Relax and make sure this is something you can do and not drive yourself crazy. Get tested for estro so you can dial in "sweet spot". Arimidex half life is about 50 hrs so try running that 1mg E3D and adjust. That's where I'd start. You may need more or less dependent on your personal reaction. Always start lower and adjust up.
      I know about the anxiety issues, that's the reason i've been on Klonopin. And the main reason I'm now on test, I want to get off the benzo's and feel better. I think a first time injection for anyone would cause some anxiety. Every video i've seen of people getting an injection for the first time they were scared shitless. I'm good now. It's been a few hours, the anxiety of the injection is gone and I don't think I'll have any more issues with pinning in the future. It was just that first one that was hard to do.

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      Like people are saying brother, everything is going to be ok. I had to hop on trt at 25 because of the decisions i made in my baseball career. My scores where barely pushing 300......in my twenties. I run 200mg a week (yea yea alot will say its to high but blood is good and 1400 feels better than 8-900). I run HCG at 500iu whenever i pin my test. I dont like having tinny nuts and small loads. but if you dont give a fuck then chuck it in the fuck it bucket. I have no sides, at all. If anything it makes my skin more clear, energy go way up etc etc. i dont know how id feel without it. Well i do, thats why i got on it. So starting at 44 instead of 25. i think youre solid my dude. this isnt a decide its not for you knida thing, this is a commitment.

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