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Originally Posted by
TurboRunner
Why?
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Why what?
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Why share that in this post? I'm just not clear what you're getting at with it
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1969jeffery1969
Why what?
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Originally Posted by
TurboRunner
Why share that in this post? I'm just not clear what you're getting at with it
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Apologies I replied to someone elses post instead of one I started similar in nature.
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All good I just didnt know if I was missing something lol
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Originally Posted by
TurboRunner
All good I just didnt know if I was missing something lol
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My bad its Monday lol
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Originally Posted by
bigpapapumpaf
You can take a regular cycle with a beginning and ending. TRT is a life long decision and has no ending. If you have high test levels, by all means run a 12 to 16 week cycle, do a proper pct, stay off for a while and repeat. Just understand the simple fact that when you introduce extra test into your system that your body will cease producing its own. At some point it might become a permanent reduction thus requiring trt. While I'm at it, a trt dose is not 500 g test, deca and tren every week. Its low dose test designed to keep your test numbers normal. Now an old guy like me has a true trt dose, prescribed by my doc of 250 mg every other week. I split that into weekly doses but at that my test levels remain in the normal to low range. I will add in extra here and there as a blast but thats about it. Even my blast has a starting and ending point with pct, etc.....
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Just wanted to pick your brain a little here and try and learn as much as I can in the process as well. I feel even the most “seasoned vets” can still and always should be learning. I am on trt and have been for several years. I was just wondering what is your usual “pct protocol” coming off of a blast while on trt? Obviously, I am aware of blasting with a beginning and an end which is where one would transition back to their trt protocol, but are there certain advantages that maybe have helped you with regards to a “pct” even though it is not technically a traditional pct? My main goal essentially is longevity in this game while remaining as healthy as possible in the process. Whatever I can take away from vets and successfully apply to my own runs, I believe would be extremely beneficial. Trying to develop a better understanding and being open to suggestions from those that have been in the game a while is paramount.
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Originally Posted by
Redrocketriggs
Just wanted to pick your brain a little here and try and learn as much as I can in the process as well. I feel even the most “seasoned vets” can still and always should be learning. I am on trt and have been for several years. I was just wondering what is your usual “pct protocol” coming off of a blast while on trt? Obviously, I am aware of blasting with a beginning and an end which is where one would transition back to their trt protocol, but are there certain advantages that maybe have helped you with regards to a “pct” even though it is not technically a traditional pct? My main goal essentially is longevity in this game while remaining as healthy as possible in the process. Whatever I can take away from vets and successfully apply to my own runs, I believe would be extremely beneficial. Trying to develop a better understanding and being open to suggestions from those that have been in the game a while is paramount.
I use nothing for pct as I am never off test. I might on occasion take some clomid just for the sport of it but that's all. I've been on trt for about 10 yrs now so I'm adjusted to it. Believe it or not still to this day I hate to pin so I procrastinate some days, get busy and forget about it on others. When that happens and I can't pound the Mrs. into submission, I'll take 15 mg cialis and I'm good to go.
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1bigpapapump1
Great post. I would like to add that, in my opinion, people should be investing in blood work also. By doing minimal research you can find good deals on testing, theres no reason to play the guessing game with your health.
I thought i had legit anti e meds, nope, ended up getting a lil bit of gyno from a test / tren cycle i was running. Use well known & trusted sources.
Do your due diligence and read and ask questions.
Yes! This is more than just an opinion. This is an absolute necessity. It’s the only way to understand how a cycle effects your body and what you need to do to keep the necessary levels in range.
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Originally Posted by
bigpapapumpaf
Man I'm not trying to be a complete jerk but some of you are wearing me out today.
Stop trying to take a 'pill' to solve your problems. You can't take 100000000mg of test, get gyno only to think that taking something extra will make the gyno go away. You have to really think about what you're doing and plan accordingly.
I saw on another board (I think) where a guy had a massive infection from re-using pins and not cleaning the injection site or vial. Come on, if that's what you're all about, why even get in the game to begin with.
Yes everyone makes mistakes. I get it. I can't say that I've been there and done that because before I stuck the first pin in my body I knew what the hell I was doing and knew how to handle the sides.
Here's some basics that seem to escape many:
When you introduce any extra test (any type of steroid) your estrogen levels will increase
You need to have something available to counter act the additional estrogen
Never assume that with extra test that your estrogen levels will ever be or ever should be lower than normal
Tren and deca cause prolactin induced sides, your normal AI's will not address this so you must use Caber or something for prolactin
What your buddy does or his freinds cousin does probably will not apply to you
Yes, you really do have to eat to grow and yes, you really have to train to grow
A fat man on steroids will always be a fat man
No you don't have to pin 12 compounds to be big
Please feel free to add on anything I've forgotten.
I just want some here to think before they hurt themselves...........................
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I totally agree with this post 100% I have guys at work and at the gym always asking me for advice and they haven’t even done their own research. Had one guy ask if I could get him deca and I asked him what his cycle looked like and when I asked him if he needed caber too her replied “what’s caber” I hate idiots. And I had another guy ask if I had extra pins because he has been using the same needle for a few weeks now and it’s starting to hurt. I don’t feel sorry for people with no common sense.
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Originally Posted by
1bigpapapump1
Great post. I would like to add that, in my opinion, people should be investing in blood work also. By doing minimal research you can find good deals on testing, theres no reason to play the guessing game with your health.
I thought i had legit anti e meds, nope, ended up getting a lil bit of gyno from a test / tren cycle i was running. Use well known & trusted sources.
Do your due diligence and read and ask questions.
People usually forget about bloodwork and then say they have no sides. Check your bloodwork, guaranteed you have sides, you just don’t feel them .
Most people think that AAS is the most expensive part of a cycle....: Not
First is the diet, then the ancillaries, then the PCT and BW. it’s not just about the AAS.
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