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      Feedback on next cycle please

      Getting ready to start next cycle in a week or 2.. Thoughts and feedback welcome as always!! 16 weeks in total. I'm 6'0 205lbs and 15% body fat. Looking for a good bulk and then dry out a bit with the winny near the end.

      Wk1-16 Test E 500mg
      Wk1-14 Deca 400mg
      Wk5-10 Provin 50mg/day
      Wk11-16 Winny 50mg/day

      HGH 2.5 IUs/day throughout. Already started month ago.

      Aromosin 12.5mg EOD

      Caber on hand if needed - may decide to take .5mg twice a week. Have not done Deca before so will play it by ear, but on hand for sure.

      HCG 500 ius / week (250 twice a week)

      Tudca, NAC, Cycle Assist, Fish oil, TMG and will continue to look at other supplements if bloods show necessary.

      Standard 4 week PCT including clomid and nolva starting 14 days after last Test E and 28 days after last Deca.

      All feedback welcome. Thanks

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      Quote Originally Posted by kaarona1 View Post
      Getting ready to start next cycle in a week or 2.. Thoughts and feedback welcome as always!! 16 weeks in total. I'm 6'0 205lbs and 15% body fat. Looking for a good bulk and then dry out a bit with the winny near the end.

      Wk1-16 Test E 500mg
      Wk1-14 Deca 400mg
      Wk5-10 Provin 50mg/day
      Wk11-16 Winny 50mg/day

      HGH 2.5 IUs/day throughout. Already started month ago.

      Aromosin 12.5mg EOD

      Caber on hand if needed - may decide to take .5mg twice a week. Have not done Deca before so will play it by ear, but on hand for sure.

      HCG 500 ius / week (250 twice a week)

      Tudca, NAC, Cycle Assist, Fish oil, TMG and will continue to look at other supplements if bloods show necessary.

      Standard 4 week PCT including clomid and nolva starting 14 days after last Test E and 28 days after last Deca.

      All feedback welcome. Thanks
      If it was my cycle I’d bump the proviron to ED the entire run and bump the hgh (unless it’s pharma) to 4iu daily.. I’d split my deca and test in half and into two days (re: Monday morning/Friday night) other than that looks gtg to me as far as gear goes...

      But more importantly, what’s the diet going to look like? Macros? Carb timing?

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      The Deca and Test E will be split into 2 pins per week. Honestly just throwing in the Provin because I have it on hand and that is how much I have. Will consider ramping up the HGH, but slowly as this is my 1st time on it and just not sure what to expect from it.

      Calories will be about 5,000/day. I have not historically counted macros, but will be high in protien and still get in some cars and lots of greens. Will look into ideal carb timing, as I have not timed them out in the past.

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      If it was my cycle I’d bump the proviron to ED the entire run and bump the hgh (unless it’s pharma) to 4iu daily.. I’d split my deca and test in half and into two days (re: Monday morning/Friday night) other than that looks gtg to me as far as gear goes...

      But more importantly, what’s the diet going to look like? Macros? Carb timing?

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      Looks perfect to me bro. Only thing I would say is take the Aromasin when needed rather than just taking 12.5 EOD. You build more muscle when you have higher estrogen but keep a close eye on estrogen sides. Bloodwork is the key to gauging this.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kaarona1 View Post
      The Deca and Test E will be split into 2 pins per week. Honestly just throwing in the Provin because I have it on hand and that is how much I have. Will consider ramping up the HGH, but slowly as this is my 1st time on it and just not sure what to expect from it.

      Calories will be about 5,000/day. I have not historically counted macros, but will be high in protien and still get in some cars and lots of greens. Will look into ideal carb timing, as I have not timed them out in the past.

      thanks for feedback so quick
      Proviron will help make more of that test available... it will definitely help ya out ;0)

      May I ask how you came up with 5k per day caloric intake? What’s your maintenance calories? Do you have an active job? How many meals per day are you planning to eat? How long do you workout for? Estimated first meal time? Last meal time?

      I’d recommend dialing in the diet plan prior to lift off... just my .02

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      thanks - I could start with 6.25mgs EOD, and get bloods after 6 weeks. Want to have some anti-Es in the system with the test and deca.

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      Looks perfect to me bro. Only thing I would say is take the Aromasin when needed rather than just taking 12.5 EOD. You build more muscle when you have higher estrogen but keep a close eye on estrogen sides. Bloodwork is the key to gauging this.

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      Its not scientific 5,000 calories per day... Just what I have done in the past. My maintenance is around 3,000 per day. I do not have active job. I work out aprox 90min/day 4-5 times per week. 1st meal has been at 7am, but with the HGH I take in the morning and want to be fasting for an hour so will probably be 8pm. Last meal 8-9pm

      Appreciate the info.. will look to dial in the diet details

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      Proviron will help make more of that test available... it will definitely help ya out ;0)

      May I ask how you came up with 5k per day caloric intake? What’s your maintenance calories? Do you have an active job? How many meals per day are you planning to eat? How long do you workout for? Estimated first meal time? Last meal time?

      I’d recommend dialing in the diet plan prior to lift off... just my .02

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      Deca and test should be perfect for a bulk, but why are you bulking at 15% bf? Why not a cycle to add some clean mass and make some cuts? Not trying to be an ass, real question. I wouldn't personally run 12 weeks on an oral either, but some guys do. Pct, ai and supps look good though.

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      Bulking because it is winter... I will bulk through Feb and then start cut in late spring. I am also skeptical on the 12 weeks of orals. Was thinking that the provin is not extremely toxic on liver and with the sups I can keep it in normal range, but bloods will be the deciding factor. I also have some anavar on hand that I was thinking about kicking it all off with, but that would be a lot of orals, although anavar is also not extremely toxic and should be able to keep liver in check with sups.... But I might kick off with anavar to harden up a bit before test and deca kick in, and then take a break on orals until winny... Will probably get bloods at week 5 or 6 and made decision to stay on orals or take a break in the middle.

      thanks for feedback. didnt take your comment negatively.

      Quote Originally Posted by madhungarian View Post
      Deca and test should be perfect for a bulk, but why are you bulking at 15% bf? Why not a cycle to add some clean mass and make some cuts? Not trying to be an ass, real question. I wouldn't personally run 12 weeks on an oral either, but some guys do. Pct, ai and supps look good though.

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      Are all of the compounds already in your possession, is that why you're wanting to run this cycle?

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