First steroid cycle...

[GeestarrGains]

Sup guys, I had a few questions about what to run, and how to run it for my first cycle. First off, the oil I picked up is Test 400 (200Test-E & 200Test-C) . I’m looking to run the T cycle for 12-16 weeks, and then PCT for 4 weeks with Nolvadex and an OTC Test booster...

I’m kinda nervous to run the cycle without an AI... but what do you it’s think about running a SERM during cycle? is my first cycle too extensive? What about cruising with a lower dose of Test after cycle?

Questions or concerns?

Thanks,

Gains


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[Cowboymike]

What’s your bloodwork baseline values look like? Natural test levels? Free test levels? E? Your full blood panel values? Ast, rdw, platelet count, rbc, hemocrit etc? Do you know where you sit naturally so you know where you’re trying to get back to after? Where you need to be before you lift off again?

IMO if you’re still asking questions you’re still in the research phase and do not need to be dipping into the execution phase until you have a full understanding what you’re about to do. The possible side effects. How to combat the possible side effects. What to watch out for. What to do in case of... and by all means, you better have everything you need before you even put a pin in your ass...

Do you know where to inject? How to inject? Safe practices of injecting?

Your pct protocol, according to your research, what’s the proper and most general protocol typically utilized by the majority? It’s a simple find.

[1969jeffery1969]

What’s your bloodwork baseline values look like? Natural test levels? Free test levels? E? Your full blood panel values? Ast, rdw, platelet count, rbc, hemocrit etc? Do you know where you sit naturally so you know where you’re trying to get back to after? Where you need to be before you lift off again?

IMO if you’re still asking questions you’re still in the research phase and do not need to be dipping into the execution phase until you have a full understanding what you’re about to do. The possible side effects. How to combat the possible side effects. What to watch out for. What to do in case of... and by all means, you better have everything you need before you even put a pin in your ass...

Do you know where to inject? How to inject? Safe practices of injecting?

Your pct protocol, according to your research, what’s the proper and most general protocol typically utilized by the majority? It’s a simple find.

I researched for six years before I stuck a needle in my ass LOL

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[Cowboymike]

I researched for six years before I stuck a needle in my ass LOL

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You were smart my brother... I was the fucking idiot who acted first and then researched after shit was going sideways... I definitely learned some things the hard way...

[GeestarrGains]

What’s your bloodwork baseline values look like? Natural test levels? Free test levels? E? Your full blood panel values? Ast, rdw, platelet count, rbc, hemocrit etc? Do you know where you sit naturally so you know where you’re trying to get back to after? Where you need to be before you lift off again?

IMO if you’re still asking questions you’re still in the research phase and do not need to be dipping into the execution phase until you have a full understanding what you’re about to do. The possible side effects. How to combat the possible side effects. What to watch out for. What to do in case of... and by all means, you better have everything you need before you even put a pin in your ass...

Do you know where to inject? How to inject? Safe practices of injecting?

Your pct protocol, according to your research, what’s the proper and most general protocol typically utilized by the majority? It’s a simple find.

Thanks for the question.. next week I will be getting a full blood panel done, to make sure I am healthy and to check my levels before my first cycle. I am in no rush to pin anything in my ass, even bought I have done plenty of research on safety and procedures of it. I do still have questions, and other people asking them makes me ask myself more questions and if I am ready. Which at this point I know what I want to cycle first, and this is the plan when I am ready.


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[phat_dogg]

I think you absolutely need to run an AI if you're injecting a decent amount of test. How many mg do you plan on running anyway? I would recommend starting off with some adex or aromasin at low dosages to start with and adjust from there. Get mid cycle bloods done also to see where your levels sit.

[GeestarrGains]

I think you absolutely need to run an AI if you're injecting a decent amount of test. How many mg do you plan on running anyway? I would recommend starting off with some adex or aromasin at low dosages to start with and adjust from there. Get mid cycle bloods done also to see where your levels sit.

Thanks for the feedback man. I am definitely going to get frequent bloodwork done as it seems to be the only way to truest regulate estros and what not. I was looking to pin 2 times a week with halfing the single dose of 1Ml. So Monday 200mg and Wednesday 200mg. So 400/wk.. I didn’t wanna dose too high being a first timer..


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[phat_dogg]

Thanks for the feedback man. I am definitely going to get frequent bloodwork done as it seems to be the only way to truest regulate estros and what not. I was looking to pin 2 times a week with halfing the single dose of 1Ml. So Monday 200mg and Wednesday 200mg. So 400/wk.. I didn’t wanna dose too high being a first timer..


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400mg a week is a good starting point. Perhaps try 0.25mg of arimidex eod to start with then adjust when you get your bloods done. Don't run a serm because all it does is stop the estrogen from binding to your receptors but you're still going to have estrogen float around in there. Adex will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen.

[GeestarrGains]

400mg a week is a good starting point. Perhaps try 0.25mg of arimidex eod to start with then adjust when you get your bloods done. Don't run a serm because all it does is stop the estrogen from binding to your receptors but you're still going to have estrogen float around in there. Adex will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen.

Awesome! I will be getting my bloods done ahead of time before I even begin a cycle obviously but I believe my estro is already a bit high. Lol


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[Sh0tsf1red]

400mg a week is a good starting point. Perhaps try 0.25mg of arimidex eod to start with then adjust when you get your bloods done. Don't run a serm because all it does is stop the estrogen from binding to your receptors but you're still going to have estrogen float around in there. Adex will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen.

SERM and AI can go together, you know estrogen is part of the growth equation right?