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I have had a similar issue with gear in the past. I truly believe it is/was how the gear was made. At least for me anyway. I have had the issues with gear that was from the same supplier(not a sponsor here). The first time I had used it, everything was fine. The second go around was absolutely horrible. Same brand, same dosage, same amount per ml, even same carrier oil. I thought maybe I was allergic to the type of carrier oil but I was not because the other oils were the same carrier. No infections but I had PIP that would cripple me for days. This issue was also a concern from a board sponsors test that eventually went private.
Unfortunately, I had to throw out all of the those particular oils/compounds. It was simply too much to bare. At one point I had a lump for weeks in my left delt from the said gear and just shitcanned it. It simply wasn't worth it anymore.
If it makes you feel any better, I did find a perfect replacement and have not had any problems from that particular board sponsor.
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Originally Posted by
Redrocketriggs
I have had a similar issue with gear in the past. I truly believe it is/was how the gear was made. At least for me anyway. I have had the issues with gear that was from the same supplier(not a sponsor here). The first time I had used it, everything was fine. The second go around was absolutely horrible. Same brand, same dosage, same amount per ml, even same carrier oil. I thought maybe I was allergic to the type of carrier oil but I was not because the other oils were the same carrier. No infections but I had PIP that would cripple me for days. This issue was also a concern from a board sponsors test that eventually went private.
Unfortunately, I had to throw out all of the those particular oils/compounds. It was simply too much to bare. At one point I had a lump for weeks in my left delt from the said gear and just shitcanned it. It simply wasn't worth it anymore.
If it makes you feel any better, I did find a perfect replacement and have not had any problems from that particular board sponsor.
Hey brotha clear your dms
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Jackman96
Yeah I’m not sure what it is. But no worries brotha the gear wasn’t from monster.
Ive been hitting the same six sites about once a week for a good while and honestly have pretty shitty injections oftenly being hella tight and shaky hands lol.
No infections are present, just larger swelling and lumps than usual.
I’m taking a short pct right now and don’t plan on pinning again for another 6-8 weeks and think I’ll be fresh and good to go again my broscience tells me lol
Also probabs gonna try some from a diff sponser that I know what carrier oil it is and start figuring out if I’ll most sensitive to different ingredients used.
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Part of it once you body starts the inflammatory response it just stays for awhile regardless if it wasn’t present before, even if all other shots were good and you got one bad one for one reason. Most people aren’t allergic to carrier oils, it’s usually the concentration of oil. EO gets some people.
There’s so many variables it could be , ba/bb, concentration, carrier oil. My bet is it’s the concentration.
Any more then .2 of sust or prop and i swell up like like you describe.
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So perhaps cyp May treat me well better than enth next time.
I was running test e and mast e. I thought it might have been the mast, but when I cut the mast out and just did some test shots those where actually the worse so something was causing me to react with the test I had
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Originally Posted by
joko123
Part of it once you body starts the inflammatory response it just stays for awhile regardless if it wasn’t present before, even if all other shots were good and you got one bad one for one reason. Most people aren’t allergic to carrier oils, it’s usually the concentration of oil. EO gets some people.
There’s so many variables it could be , ba/bb, concentration, carrier oil. My bet is it’s the concentration.
Any more then .2 of sust or prop and i swell up like like you describe.
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You really think it could be the potency even if it wasn’t high mg/ml? It was the standard 250mg/ml test e and 200mg/ml for the mast e
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You beat me to the question that I was going to ask you Jackman, about the potency. But let me tell you, my favorite go to injections are my delts and only recently, I have been pinning my right glute and right quad. My first rule of thumb is never pin my quad on fresh gear. Always goes to the delt. Second, I was a few weeks into this and I had a bad injection. I've had these same reactions before with high potency strength gear, and this was 300 test enth. The first several shots, just fine. I pinned my left delt, and I went through a hearty vein in the process and didn't know it. Of course, nothing comes out when you asperate, just when I pulled that needle out. A nice stream of blood and oil gushed out from my 1.5" 23 gauge pin. I should have pressed down on it quicker with some tissue, but I didn't get to it in time. Well, the next day it hurt like hell, and then the red rash started. It starts around my delt area and proceeds to drop all the way to the end of my bicep. I'm guessing that's the oil's path.
Like I said, I've had this happen in the past, no biggy, I am used to these. However, on this cycle, I have noticed whenever I go through a vein, it always tends to be super sore the next day, even if I get the pressure applied quickly on the injection site. So that being said..
I doubt you are going through veins on every shot, but I would suspect that maybe as someone told me previously, that the gear may have come out of suspension? I have read that if the gear comes out of suspension, that it will inflame the muscle and tissue area. Maybe some of the chemists here can chime in and speak about this if there's any truth in this. Personally, I would contact your sponsor if this purchase wasn't too long ago and bring this up with them. I know that some guys will heat their gear up in the oven. That has worked in the past for me. I would also , suggest using longer pins if your size is less than 1", and if you have more muscle/fat, definitely go with a 1.5".
Hope that helps.
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This sounds like a bad batch of gear to me. Have you tried warming up the injection site and oil before pinning?
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