I know you were asking about bold ace, but I have done bold prop 100 or 80, can't remember, but let me tell you, it was the most painful SH*T I have ever tried to pin. My arm would swell up and turn red from the delt injection and I felt like I was full swing in the middle of a flu. Body just ached everywhere, ran a fever, just insane. I will never do that stuff again. But I will say, my veins started popping out in a few days after injecting. Crazy good stuff if your body can handle it.