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      Blood test questions

      I am going to schedule my first blood tests through private med lab. I just want to double check that I will be getting the correct test. I wanted an uncapped testosterone and since I'm on hgh I need rgf-1 test correct? This is the test I think I need it's the unisex one for $155.49 on this page Body Builder Testing | Private MD Labs correct?
      Also I'm not sure on the hgh protocol I've read it both ways to just do normal hgh dose I've also seen it said to do 10iu before testing. Which should I do? I'm currently dosing 4iu a day 2iu morning and 2iu pre work out
      Also I want to do my last pin of AAS 40 hours before the tests correct?

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      I am assuming since I've not gotten any response that it's the correct test I need. So I'm going to go ahead and purchase it and I'll just do my regular hgh schedule and my last pin of test 36-40 hours before the test

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      I have just done the typical female panel uncapped & marked male on form.
      & then at seperate time just got igf test, never done both at same time.
      It may b cheaper to just do these 2 but I dontknow.

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      Checking your HGH serum levels through blood work!
      (Textbook testing for therapeutic levels vs 4-10ius is far different)


      In today's age we are limited to testing methods when testing our HGH serum levels due to expense factors.. Though direct HGH serum blood work seems to be the only practical method we have available when it concerns "Meat Heads on a budget" such as PrivateLabs/labcorp, it's known as a "Crude method" like all blood work, however it's a good indicator of where we came from, where we are, and where we are going!

      Before we begin, I want to reiterate the fact that there are different testing methods that will yields different
      results..

      For instance ECLIA vs LC MS-MS; ECLIA Method which is short for "Electrochemiluminescent Immunoassay".. It’s a fast and affordable method to measure total hormones in your blood. Many labs use this method because it’s automatic and doesn’t require too much work on a lab technician’s part, it's simply the standard affordable method done by most clinics for blood tests..It's not reliable or entirely accurate..It's simply just a "standard generic method", fast turn around, nothing more, nothing less...It's simply just a fast,quick snap shot for the moment to give almost instant results, so it's somewhat accurate for that sole purpose when it concerns "Just tell me whats going on now, yes or no"...

      LC MS-MS Method is short for "liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry". It’s considered the gold standard method by many researchers in measuring small molecules. Its accuracy and consistency is why the CDC is recommending LC/MS to be the standard method used when testing HGH/IGF or even total testosterone. Because LC/MS is more sensitive than ECLIA, doctors typically use this method when testing patients with really low levels with HGH or even again - testosterone levels, and testing individuals such as women and children. While it’s more accurate and sensitive, the LC/MS method is more expensive than ECLIA. And it takes a bit longer to get your results...Always place into great consideration that with the LC MS-MS method it will be more pronounced with measuring specific concentrations..

      The truth of the matter is, HGH serum levels only validates it's legitimacy NOT potency because testing results will vary "dramatically" from each individual to the next..Testing HGH levels is a crude method at best, at the same time providing a keen indication on what's taken place..

      Testing for IGF serum levels is one of the better methods to assure the quality, in which will help validate the authenticity of the product!


      FYI; Always have a baseline, knowing your baseline is pivotal especially if you have a history with testing and having a complete understanding of what your REAL baseline is, this way comparisons can be applied from prior dates to future instances, or even protocols, as there's numerous variables that may effect results..

      Test pricing can range from 50-75$ in some cases for a HGH or IGF panel Buy Lab Tests Online | Private MD Labs

      Testing HGH serum through a blood panel is NOT the current lab standard,IGF levels establish the effectiveness of TRUE HGH levels,and they are seen and recognized by a labs aspect as the RELIABLE standard (depending on time of day,diet,and/or the influence of injection of HGH(exogenous) other then natural levels (endogenous ),However, I'm not suggesting that HGH labs are poor with inaccuracy, in fact I'm going to implementing that it's a GREAT alternative compared to the expensive lab standards, as it can provide overwhelming evidence if your HGH is in fact real HGH..

      Now, if your utilizing HGH through subq/IM administration (exogenous influence) your levels will spike approximately 3 hrs after administration, an IFG analysis is completely unnecessary UNLESS you have tested prior for baseline levels and wish to compare, the simple HGH serum test will yield a sufficient readout if in fact your HGH is legit or not, as your HGH serum will stand far outside of the standard reference range.. FACT- This is a proven method to determine a YES or NO.. (Its's suggested to do a pre base line readings on HGH & IGF levels for comparison)
      Select a muscle belly that is less frequented with injections, due to the potential of existing scar tissue that may possibly hinder metabolization and blood cMax serum levels (Biceps are a great choice, smaller muscle bellies may provide a better HGH serum reading)

      Also, always keep notes when testings, with each pre and after test method..


      Preparing for Blood test (6-10ius pre testing)

      There's a lot of controversy in regards to fasting vs finding it unnecessary.. There's some truth behind this for great reason, such as fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in men (when testing natural levels), levels can be very infrequent and erratic, especially during a fed state, as many nutrients posses an unpredictable effect on GH release in most people..(metabolization sensitivity will vary).. However, when testing 3hrs after IM injection of HGH fasting has been proven to be irrelevant to serum levels (in some/most patients).In order to rule out and opposing factors that can be questionable with manipulation through serum levels, it is SUGGESTED to fast 6-10 hrs pre-blood drawing. Carbohydrate intake should be lowered considerably 24 hrs prior, up until 6-10 hrs fast, there after no consumption (glucose may suppress GH release effecting spike levels)..

      Dosages and Serum levels to expect

      6-8ius can yield 15-50 ng/mL as ranges can vary (this has been proven in real life experiences, regardless of the quality, generic or US Pharma grade,some user do NOT respond well with HGH injections, fact this is why it's suggested to keep notes from prior testing) Toss text book reads out the window!


      Remain inactive pre-testing


      As Further recommendations have it, absolutely no strenuous or rigorous stimulation through activities such as running,walking,or exercising,
      anything that can stimulation hormonal levels and HGH secretions..

      Consumption of water is fine, a glass or 2 will NOT hurt, but limit hrs up until testings..The usage of alcohol and/or tobacco is entirely prohibited,
      and not recommended, especially alcohol..cease all consumption 72hrs prior due to the brake down enzymes and glucose levels and pancreases secretions from alcohol..


      Recap-

      6-10 ius (IM) 3 hrs pre testing (subq administration possess a slower rate with metabolizing in some users, IM has proven a 2-6 fold in levels)
      Fasting is recommended, but not necessary (suggested 6-10 hrs pre)
      Limit carb intake to absolute minimum
      Consumption of water is OK if limited to 1 glass or 2, and not 3 hrs pre testing
      No strenuous activities under any circumstances before testing
      The use of alcohol and tobacco and other drugs should be completely eliminated 72 hrs prior to testing

      Regards,
      Vision


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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      Checking your HGH serum levels through blood work!
      (Textbook testing for therapeutic levels vs 4-10ius is far different)


      In today's age we are limited to testing methods when testing our HGH serum levels due to expense factors.. Though direct HGH serum blood work seems to be the only practical method we have available when it concerns "Meat Heads on a budget" such as PrivateLabs/labcorp, it's known as a "Crude method" like all blood work, however it's a good indicator of where we came from, where we are, and where we are going!

      Before we begin, I want to reiterate the fact that there are different testing methods that will yields different
      results..

      For instance ECLIA vs LC MS-MS; ECLIA Method which is short for "Electrochemiluminescent Immunoassay".. It’s a fast and affordable method to measure total hormones in your blood. Many labs use this method because it’s automatic and doesn’t require too much work on a lab technician’s part, it's simply the standard affordable method done by most clinics for blood tests..It's not reliable or entirely accurate..It's simply just a "standard generic method", fast turn around, nothing more, nothing less...It's simply just a fast,quick snap shot for the moment to give almost instant results, so it's somewhat accurate for that sole purpose when it concerns "Just tell me whats going on now, yes or no"...

      LC MS-MS Method is short for "liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry". It’s considered the gold standard method by many researchers in measuring small molecules. Its accuracy and consistency is why the CDC is recommending LC/MS to be the standard method used when testing HGH/IGF or even total testosterone. Because LC/MS is more sensitive than ECLIA, doctors typically use this method when testing patients with really low levels with HGH or even again - testosterone levels, and testing individuals such as women and children. While it’s more accurate and sensitive, the LC/MS method is more expensive than ECLIA. And it takes a bit longer to get your results...Always place into great consideration that with the LC MS-MS method it will be more pronounced with measuring specific concentrations..

      The truth of the matter is, HGH serum levels only validates it's legitimacy NOT potency because testing results will vary "dramatically" from each individual to the next..Testing HGH levels is a crude method at best, at the same time providing a keen indication on what's taken place..

      Testing for IGF serum levels is one of the better methods to assure the quality, in which will help validate the authenticity of the product!


      FYI; Always have a baseline, knowing your baseline is pivotal especially if you have a history with testing and having a complete understanding of what your REAL baseline is, this way comparisons can be applied from prior dates to future instances, or even protocols, as there's numerous variables that may effect results..

      Test pricing can range from 50-75$ in some cases for a HGH or IGF panel Buy Lab Tests Online | Private MD Labs

      Testing HGH serum through a blood panel is NOT the current lab standard,IGF levels establish the effectiveness of TRUE HGH levels,and they are seen and recognized by a labs aspect as the RELIABLE standard (depending on time of day,diet,and/or the influence of injection of HGH(exogenous) other then natural levels (endogenous ),However, I'm not suggesting that HGH labs are poor with inaccuracy, in fact I'm going to implementing that it's a GREAT alternative compared to the expensive lab standards, as it can provide overwhelming evidence if your HGH is in fact real HGH..

      Now, if your utilizing HGH through subq/IM administration (exogenous influence) your levels will spike approximately 3 hrs after administration, an IFG analysis is completely unnecessary UNLESS you have tested prior for baseline levels and wish to compare, the simple HGH serum test will yield a sufficient readout if in fact your HGH is legit or not, as your HGH serum will stand far outside of the standard reference range.. FACT- This is a proven method to determine a YES or NO.. (Its's suggested to do a pre base line readings on HGH & IGF levels for comparison)
      Select a muscle belly that is less frequented with injections, due to the potential of existing scar tissue that may possibly hinder metabolization and blood cMax serum levels (Biceps are a great choice, smaller muscle bellies may provide a better HGH serum reading)

      Also, always keep notes when testings, with each pre and after test method..


      Preparing for Blood test (6-10ius pre testing)

      There's a lot of controversy in regards to fasting vs finding it unnecessary.. There's some truth behind this for great reason, such as fasting enhances growth hormone secretion and amplifies the complex rhythms of growth hormone secretion in men (when testing natural levels), levels can be very infrequent and erratic, especially during a fed state, as many nutrients posses an unpredictable effect on GH release in most people..(metabolization sensitivity will vary).. However, when testing 3hrs after IM injection of HGH fasting has been proven to be irrelevant to serum levels (in some/most patients).In order to rule out and opposing factors that can be questionable with manipulation through serum levels, it is SUGGESTED to fast 6-10 hrs pre-blood drawing. Carbohydrate intake should be lowered considerably 24 hrs prior, up until 6-10 hrs fast, there after no consumption (glucose may suppress GH release effecting spike levels)..

      Dosages and Serum levels to expect

      6-8ius can yield 15-50 ng/mL as ranges can vary (this has been proven in real life experiences, regardless of the quality, generic or US Pharma grade,some user do NOT respond well with HGH injections, fact this is why it's suggested to keep notes from prior testing) Toss text book reads out the window!


      Remain inactive pre-testing


      As Further recommendations have it, absolutely no strenuous or rigorous stimulation through activities such as running,walking,or exercising,
      anything that can stimulation hormonal levels and HGH secretions..

      Consumption of water is fine, a glass or 2 will NOT hurt, but limit hrs up until testings..The usage of alcohol and/or tobacco is entirely prohibited,
      and not recommended, especially alcohol..cease all consumption 72hrs prior due to the brake down enzymes and glucose levels and pancreases secretions from alcohol..


      Recap-

      6-10 ius (IM) 3 hrs pre testing (subq administration possess a slower rate with metabolizing in some users, IM has proven a 2-6 fold in levels)
      Fasting is recommended, but not necessary (suggested 6-10 hrs pre)
      Limit carb intake to absolute minimum
      Consumption of water is OK if limited to 1 glass or 2, and not 3 hrs pre testing
      No strenuous activities under any circumstances before testing
      The use of alcohol and tobacco and other drugs should be completely eliminated 72 hrs prior to testing

      Regards,
      Vision

      Thank you very much.
      I'm going to get the unisex hormone panel with uncapped lc/ms-ms testosterone test and igf-1 test for $155.49 I'm also going to get the hgh serum test for $55.49. I'll fallow your protical and 8iu IM 3 hours before test
      Unfortunately I dont have a baseline test this will be my first blood test

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