Quote Originally Posted by Scott84067r View Post
I don't think you are selling yourself short. If you read about the Eastern Block Soviet countries the Bulgarians took blood tests and found that after 45 minutes the testosterone in the blood had declined by over 80%. They also would train six times a day but short duration. I will post the article where I found the information later.

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Hmmm, I'd like to see that article because I've read differently. Also 80% is a huge drop. If you think of it post the article I'd like to read it.
Quote Originally Posted by m314 View Post
Blood testosterone levels don't decline for people who blast and cruise. Steroids let us push harder for better results. There's no way I could do as much as I do in the gym if I was stuck relying on my natural testosterone production.
Also valid point that I was going to mention. Also, temporary drops in T levels doesn't really matter as a natural body will produce more. Just because (supposedly) T levels drop shortly after intense workout, doesn't mean it has any effect on recovery. Your body will produce a certain amount per day regardless and will make more as needed.

But since I myself rely on exogenous testosterone, I don't have to worry I can replenish myself when I see fit
Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
these articles always contradict themselves because there's other research to prove that testosterone increases.. articles are very misleading along with studies because something can equally contradict it with supporting evidence
I was thinking the same thing. I've always read the total opposite. Unless you're completely overtraining yourself to the point of adrenal fatigue, you're T levels should spike a bit during heavy lifting. Even after 45 mins.