begining powerlifting cycle?

**njd84** · 06-12-2012, 01:33 AM

My plan is to start my first ever real cycle in July. I am a powerlifter and my goals are different than most users. Most cycles I read about are about size and this is something I dont want. I compete at 198. So I have laid out a cycle after reading for the last few month. My history is as follows:

Lifting for 3 years (had a few injuries and time off)
Ran 3 PH cycles. (epi/tren, pmag, phera/tren)
I usually am around 205-210 and can cut 10-15lbs befoe the meet pretty easy normally. currently at 194.
Compete at 198.

So My cycle is set up to be 14 weeks long. My last injection of Test E is 3 days before the meet. Planning on doing a sun/wed injection schedule.

1-8 Test e 480mg (2 shots weekly) ( I am using test e 300mg/ml so i figure .8ml)
9-14 Test E 600
1-4 Dbol 36mg daily (50mg split into 4 doses taking 3 of them daily)
1-16 Arimdex .5mg daily or as needed
500iu HCG weekly

PCT
17 100mg clomid
18 75 mg clomid
19-20 50mg clomid
17-18 25mg Aromasin
19-20 12.5mg aromasin

Have tons of Nolva on had as well.

I guess it is pretty basic.

Is there anyting I should add to this being my first cycle? I always read that it should be simple which I agree with. But first thought about adding halo at 20mg a day for the last two weeks of the cycle but with my rest week I feel that a week would be wasted. Now have been thinking about var at 50mg for the tail end of 6 weeks then dosing 150mg of TNE the day of the meet with 15mg Halo.

My other question is on water retention and cutting. I haven't done as much research here as I should but I know what I'm doing when I am not on gear. Should I follow the same protical? It is a 24 hour weigh in so that is to my advantage. Idealyl I would like to add 15lbs LBM if possible over the cycle. Get strong as fuck and then be at 210 and cut 12lbs but am worried about water. I know arimdex will help, diet, etc should I follow the same protical?

So I tend to ramble when I post

Cliffs
1. What should I add to this cycle being my first cycle, if anything?
2. Should I add 50mg var 6 weeks and 150mg TNE (only day of and training days for the last work outs and day of meet) or 3 weeks halo and TNE? Or other/nothing its enough for a first cyle?
3. How should I go about cutting for the meet? Should I follow the same protical as if I was not on gear?
4. Anything else you would add or do?

**exphys88** · 06-12-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by njd84

My plan is to start my first ever real cycle in July. I am a powerlifter and my goals are different than most users. Most cycles I read about are about size and this is something I dont want. I compete at 198. So I have laid out a cycle after reading for the last few month. My history is as follows:

Lifting for 3 years (had a few injuries and time off)
Ran 3 PH cycles. (epi/tren, pmag, phera/tren)
I usually am around 205-210 and can cut 10-15lbs befoe the meet pretty easy normally. currently at 194.
Compete at 198.

So My cycle is set up to be 14 weeks long. My last injection of Test E is 3 days before the meet. Planning on doing a sun/wed injection schedule.

1-8 Test e 480mg (2 shots weekly) ( I am using test e 300mg/ml so i figure .8ml)
9-14 Test E 600
1-4 Dbol 36mg daily (50mg split into 4 doses taking 3 of them daily)
1-16 Arimdex .5mg daily or as needed
500iu HCG weekly

PCT
17 100mg clomid
18 75 mg clomid
19-20 50mg clomid
17-18 25mg Aromasin
19-20 12.5mg aromasin

Have tons of Nolva on had as well.

I guess it is pretty basic.

Is there anyting I should add to this being my first cycle? I always read that it should be simple which I agree with. But first thought about adding halo at 20mg a day for the last two weeks of the cycle but with my rest week I feel that a week would be wasted. Now have been thinking about var at 50mg for the tail end of 6 weeks then dosing 150mg of TNE the day of the meet with 15mg Halo.

My other question is on water retention and cutting. I haven't done as much research here as I should but I know what I'm doing when I am not on gear. Should I follow the same protical? It is a 24 hour weigh in so that is to my advantage. Idealyl I would like to add 15lbs LBM if possible over the cycle. Get strong as fuck and then be at 210 and cut 12lbs but am worried about water. I know arimdex will help, diet, etc should I follow the same protical?

So I tend to ramble when I post

Cliffs
1. What should I add to this cycle being my first cycle, if anything?
2. Should I add 50mg var 6 weeks and 150mg TNE (only day of and training days for the last work outs and day of meet) or 3 weeks halo and TNE? Or other/nothing its enough for a first cyle?
3. How should I go about cutting for the meet? Should I follow the same protical as if I was not on gear?
4. Anything else you would add or do?

1. Only thing I'd suggest is to run hcg at 500 iu twice weekly.

2. The usual recommendation is to keep it simple, but if everything is going fine, I don't see a problem w adding var and tne at the end. There is no correct answer, but I would do the var instead of the halo.

3. Cutting would be the same, except you have to be careful to watch your estradiol from going too high and causing some water retention.

4. Train like a mofo! You will recover faster, so take advantage of it.

**Mountain Monster** · 06-13-2012, 11:27 PM

X2 it looks like your doing your research,thats good to see. I agree with exphys88 if ya add an oral at all I strongly suggest var over halo at this stage bro.

**njd84** · 06-21-2012, 12:56 AM

Thanks for the input. Thinking now Var at 75mg a day for 8 weeks. 6 weeks with test then 2 weeks while I wait for the ester to clear. Either that of Epi. Var is just so damn expensive but I know a lot of guys who are power lifters I've talked to love it. Only one way to find out I guess.