HCG starting dose blast and cruise.

**NoMMAdd** · 01-31-2019, 01:22 AM

First time shooting. I will be running 300 mg/WK Test E cruise with a 120/180 split. And between 100-250/wk Primo for a smooth blast only 2 times/yr for 10 weeks. I will cruise for 6-8 months before my first blast to get my aromasin and HCG dose dialed in to what's optimal for me.
With that said what would be a recommended starting dose for HCG? Do I take it blast and cruise both or just during blast. If I put a ampule in a vial will it last as long or should I just buy the vial? Any recommendations to questions I didn't ask but need to know?
Will also be getting blood work about every 6 months. Have baseline bloods tmrw (Jan 31 Fri 2019). Then in 5 weeks will do bloods again to see where my test and estrogen is and adjust dosages.

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**Donnyb11731** · 01-31-2019, 02:09 AM

I personally do not run hcg while blasting. What I do is the last two weeks blasting I’ll start every day 4iu then tamp my way up to 12iu by the time I’m done blasting then two weeks after last pin I’ll do 12iu eod for two weeks after last pin. My balls swell right up and natural test levels come right back no problem. I’m 36year old male and I beat the shit out of my body and I run long long cycles upwards of 25 weeks and I still have no issues getting my boys to get to work.

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**NoMMAdd** · 01-31-2019, 04:08 AM

Isn't that a little different than cruising though. I mean I will constantly be using more test than my body makes naturally year round. Or perhaps using the same amount in which case my nads still shut down. I think it would be wiser to run HCG and lower my test dose so I'm maxing natural test and using AAS to make up the difference. Or am i missing something.

**Adrenaline** · 01-31-2019, 04:33 AM

Normal HCG protocol for TRT is 500iu twice a week. That is what I recommend anyone taking on gear whether your blasting or cruising. And as long as its still in powder form it will last, once you reconstitute it thats when you should start using it.

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**NoMMAdd** · 01-31-2019, 05:18 AM

Does that change depending on test dosage and labs or do I just bro science it on feel to get a optimal dose.

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**9TMARE** · 01-31-2019, 05:33 AM

I run as Adrenaline stated 2 x week 500iu.

**NoMMAdd** · 01-31-2019, 06:01 AM

One other thing are luer slip ok. They are cheaper and I can get BD syringe and Terumo sharps. From shopmedvet.com
I can't seem to find luer lock Terumo sharps anywhere w/out Rx. Though I haven't checked my local needle exchange either??

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**Adrenaline** · 01-31-2019, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by NoMMAdd

One other thing are luer slip ok. They are cheaper and I can get BD syringe and Terumo sharps. From shopmedvet.com
I can't seem to find luer lock Terumo sharps anywhere w/out Rx. Though I haven't checked my local needle exchange either??

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You need insulin needles. 29g 1/2inch

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**Bam3into1** · 01-31-2019, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by NoMMAdd

Does that change depending on test dosage and labs or do I just bro science it on feel to get a optimal dose.

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It's more Ball Science. If your balls are all shriveled up you need HCG or more HCG. If they're feeling full then you're good.

Also like Adrenaline said you need insulin pins.

**Adrenaline** · 01-31-2019, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bam3into1

It's more Ball Science. If your balls are all shriveled up you need HCG or more HCG. If they're feeling full then you're good. .

I go by what most doctors prescribe to TRT patients. And thats 500iu twice a week. Besides my balls being full I feel better during the cycle running HCG the entire time, better overall feeling of well being, increased sex drive, and increased estrogen which can lead to better gains. Obviously should be controlling estrogen with an AI but higher estrogen levels gives you better gains. I’m a strong believer of running HCG the entire time. I’ve done many cycles without it and many with it and you really notice the difference.

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