Thread: Need advice and opinions from our competing body builders and experienced users

I can tell your online coach isn’t Dave Palumbo because that is a lot of drugs and maybe not even the right ratio.

I can elaborate but I’ll just answer your question since you make it a point that those are your only real queries.

Just cut the Dbol when you stop your Dbol/anadrol mix. 100mgis a lot of Dbol and on top of the excess, the taxing of your liver, etc. isn’t worth it OR good for you.

When you say “per week”, I am curious as to injection frequency, Test prop for example and Npp. If you can tolerate Test prop usually great, but have you ever used it during a physiologically depressed state like you are going to be in by week 12 or especially week 6? I personally can’t use ANY test prop. Addressing your test dosages, I would advise you to just pin 200-250mg of Cyp or enanthate EOD.
Test is Test is Test. Choosing an ester is about frequency of injections. There are those who think pinning a long ester EOD is silly but track your serum levels in one of the apps and see why I prefer this approach to test.

How do you do on Tren? I think you’ll find that Tren ace @ 50mg/EOD will give you excellent results with the least amount of sides. Depends on how you respond to Tren and what sides you get. I get virtually no sides from it like most people seem to but I tried both 50mg and 100mg/EOD these pst two preps and saw no difference in appearance. I was happy to reduce my drug intake.
I would also suggest only using Tren for the last eight weeks. I love Tren but you’ll get what you need in that eight weeks.
I will also address the Mast since it is sandwiched between your questions.

Start the Mast E at 12 weeks and 200mg/2xweek...or 200mg with your EOD Tren shot. 400mg is plenty but since guys get a nice boost in their sense of well being from mast, I’m not so against a bit more. Anything to boost your overall mood is priceless in prep mode.

Too much Winstrol. 25mg/ED or even 50mg/EOD will do the trick. Winstrol makes lots of guys miserable via joint stiffness and pain. It works nicely but that’s the trade off. So a lesser amount is better, IMO.

Do you have Halotestin? I haven’t used it but my pro friends think it’s crucial. I would never use it the way they do but I would do 10mg split doses for 20mg/day ONLY two weeks out.

Have you procured some Dyazide yet? You need it for last day or two.

I am going to presume here that you haven’t competed before OR haven’t done an extensive drug run like the one you describe during prep.
You CANNOT overestimate the incredible taxing of your body and mind that precontest prep takes on you. When your body is beaten down from what will seem like an interminable amount of same-thing-every day drudgery, you will not want to be using single mg more than you need to.
It looks like you work in a job where you have to be constantly interacting with clients and this interaction directly affects your income. Dieting, the added cardio requiring schedule change AND drugs can make you a miserable cunt to be around. Be aware of this!

You have decent muscle. Make your prep as enjoyable (read:less PITA) as possible. It is not an easy road but when you’ve done it, win or lose, after walking off the dais, you can KNOW where you can push yourself AND have the confidence of knowing you have done something most guys here say they can do but likely never will.

¡Buena Suerte!

Damn... nice post lol... I had to take notes to remember what to respond to haha...

My coach is not an online coach.... he has a few championships under his belt and goes to the gym I go to.

I’m going to be taking my injections EOD. So 3.5 a week that’s why I am gonna brew my mast at 230 so that each injection will be 115 mg eod to reach 400 per week for the first 4 weeks then I may increase to 600 for the last 4 weeks...

I’ve never had a problem with test p and I’ve ran it multiple times... but never while cutting. I’m at 500 mg per week of test right now for bulking then I’ll prob just drop with my test e. 250 mg per week. Since my levels are already gonna be stable for test e... I wrestled growing up, so I’m used to cutting weight and watching others eat lol.

Tren doesn’t affect me to badly except for the night sweats... I’ve ran tren maybe 4 or 5 times total and I’ve tried test higher and test lower... low test/ higher tren seems to be the key for me. And I agree that 8 weeks of tren will be plenty...

I’ve only ran winny one time at 60-80 mg ED and Definately had pain in my joints so if you think 25 mg will be enough I’m all for that lol.

This will be my first competition so I’m pretty damn excited!!! However I ran a practice cycle almost the same as this just without the mast maybe in March or April 2018 it seems like a lot of different aas cause it is but it’s only 2 oil for bulk and 3 oil for cut because of splitting it between bulk and cut...

do you know where I can get some dyozide? This is the first I’ve heard of it... I always just hear there is nothing you can really do for water retention other then fix your diet.




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And I’m gonna get more bloods drawn after the bulk before the cut


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MHP’s Xpel is almost as effective as dyazide, and it’s otc. Should be all you need, assuming you diet appropriately.

As above said, those higher oral doses are unnecessary. Especially dbol, over 50mg the back pumps are a nuisance and can get in the way of a good workout.


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