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so as not to waste, get some normal 250 and when setting up your pin, just run bits of the 400 mixed with the 250 which will up the mgs in your pin a bit ,allow you not to waste it and minimize the PIP. Ive had to do that before. I could barely walk after hitting some test 500
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so as not to waste, get some normal 250 and when setting up your pin, just run bits of the 400 mixed with the 250 which will up the mgs in your pin a bit ,allow you not to waste it and minimize the PIP. Ive had to do that before. I could barely walk after hitting some test 500
I tried to home brew a T-500...should have started with a small batch as it was my first attempt at such a high concentration. I made 20 bottles and threw them out after like 3-4 pins. Each pin immobilized me for a week. I'll leave it to the pros from now on.
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Try hAlf cC 400 half 250
200+125
325 so it’s a little less mg but could help the 400 not burn you
Shouldn’t be doing that anyways but so you don’t waste the vial of 400
Mix it with 250
Or any other oil
1/2 test 400
Half Deca
Or half Eq something else
Just wha I would do in that situation besides emailing the lab and asking what’s up
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MrBash
So I remember watching a interview a while back with the Late great Rich P.. R.IP. Homie. Anyway he said that these high concentrations of gear 3-4-500mg are very harsh when it comes to pip. He also said some other things I can’t remeber. But he said it also has to do person to person. Everyone reacts different. I would try mixing it with another compound. If that dosnt work try to cut it down again to a smaller dose and mix with another compound. Shit hurts sometimes it the price of doing business. I am using trs. P right now that is giving me a permanent pimp limp. Also make sure you are going deep enough in the glute. At least 1-1/2inch.
What he said more or less was that it was absolutely ridiculous putting 400-500 on 1ml. In fact I believe he said it was impossible to make that real. Which seems to be untrue. I believe it's absolutely ridiculous. I don't Brew I'm not a brewmaster. I'm not that kind of doctor. I do believe it's like stuffing a football down a straw.
Now if we have to dilute it then why we even buy it.
Diluting something for pip let's say dhb not the same idea. You didn't buy it because it was concentrated per milliliter. So in a sense not the same kind of pip. I mention this because in that case diluting that would be a great idea.
As far as your comment about hate to waste it. Now I wouldn't waste it I would just dilute it. Seems to be your only option here.
I'm sure the source has a perfectly reasonable explanation on how this is the best concentration they could possibly make. Perhaps they can even fit a couple of more hundred . If that's the case then I am completely uneducated. And I apologize.
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Jozifp103
Like others have said, if you have sterile GSO, CSO, MCT, etc...dilute it with that. You can try mixing it with a less harsh AAS but honestly it won't do much as you're just adding more hormone and solvents.
To clarify on these....The PIP with high dosed oils is mostly caused by the solvents used. When you're dissolving more hormone into the same volume of carrier, you need to use more solvents to keep the hormone dissolved in the solution. Solvents like Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol, Ethyl Oleate, Guaiacol etc. These can cause inflammation, and irritation of the muscle tissue as it is corrosive to bodily tissue in high amounts. So basically you're feeling the solvents eat away at your muscle tissue. It's a minuscule amount of damage in reality but goddamn can it hurt.
Couple that with the hormone crashing (recrystallizing) inside your muscle...and you got yourself a good old fashioned charlie horse
Sounds about right
Seems like more of a gimmick people think they can get more bang for their buck. But at what cost? Oh I could see doing a pre workout with Pip. There's benefits there. But we're talking test here. Not sure what the price difference is. Or how much they're saving by getting concentrate.
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And as far as Rich goes love him or hate him.
The guy could do the vacuum pose at 350 lb.
Yes he used a lot of Synthol. But that doesn't discredit the amount of muscle he had hiding underneath that.
Craig golias is comparable in size but without the Synthol. Now that's a mass monster. To be clear I'm not talkin about Aesthetics here
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Yes Big he did say in that interview that when labs advertised high dosed gear don’t believe it.. I also think it may be a little u true.. because it been proven wrong unless we all are getting bambooozled .. doubt it.. my buddy is orders from a lab international a well known brand and respected and he is getting sust500. And deca 500. The oil is deep yellow and looks like syrup.. he is also getting tri tren that has all three esters in it.. so high mg oil is possible for sure but expect a wham bam thank you man behind it. Bottom line is if anyone orders a high mg oil or any oil with no water expect a pip . If you don’t get it consider yourself lucky. I will say it again I am uso g a labs test prop at the moment and have been using it for a while now and I am crippled for two days after I inject it I. My quads Bi’s and pecs’s are the worst in that order. If I hit my VG or ass cheeks no problem. So expect to be crippled. I did a shot in my quad a few weeks back it swelled up so bad not just the inject site but the whole quad I thought I had a infection. Went to the dr and she put me on a antibiotic. Turns out it’s just the compound. Still using the same shit. But I am of on a tangit now. It’s not the lab or others would be bitching about them by now.
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MrBash
Yes Big he did say in that interview that when labs advertised high dosed gear don’t believe it.. I also think it may be a little u true.. because it been proven wrong unless we all are getting bambooozled .. doubt it.. my buddy is orders from a lab international a well known brand and respected and he is getting sust500. And deca 500. The oil is deep yellow and looks like syrup.. he is also getting tri tren that has all three esters in it.. so high mg oil is possible for sure but expect a wham bam thank you man behind it. Bottom line is if anyone orders a high mg oil or any oil with no water expect a pip . If you don’t get it consider yourself lucky. I will say it again I am uso g a labs test prop at the moment and have been using it for a while now and I am crippled for two days after I inject it I. My quads Bi’s and pecs’s are the worst in that order. If I hit my VG or ass cheeks no problem. So expect to be crippled. I did a shot in my quad a few weeks back it swelled up so bad not just the inject site but the whole quad I thought I had a infection. Went to the dr and she put me on a antibiotic. Turns out it’s just the compound. Still using the same shit. But I am of on a tangit now. It’s not the lab or others would be bitching about them by now.
I think Rich was just kind of talking s*** about the whole high mg. the guy is like most of us he can just sit there and ramble on
without going back I think what you said is if you're going to buy the high milligram expect the pip.
Yep pretty much.
I've never tried any I wonder how slow it comes out the syringe
I think there's quite a few guys that have one time or another been to the doctor thinking they have an infection. and then of course not explaining to the doctor exactly what happened because they're scared so they walk out with antibiotics when in reality they have a horrible case crippling paralyzing wheelchair pip. now here's worst case scenario. The PIP doesn't kick in for about 3 days. And on the third day you go in the same spot. now you've just doubled up. And all of a sudden it starts to kick in. In a couple of days later it's at its worse when the rest of it starts to kick. this is at the point where you think half of your body has to be amputated. of course as a man our first reaction is to ask the doctor. " can we save the penis"
Moral of the story
That's life
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Throw that shit away like I did yesterday. I don't have money to waste but fuck that shit hurts. I'm no pussy but when it interferes with workouts, it's not worth it. The gear from the other sponsor I have is smooth. I still can't pin in my right delt or quad. I pinned about a week after that first time with the good gear, and you know the pip was damn near as bad as the test400. I blame the test400. One guy here said it took months to pin comfortably after bad gear, and I fucking believe him. I'm not fucking up my body anymore than I have to.
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