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      help tweak cycle

      brothers, I'm embarking on a 7-8 month cycle.

      I have cycled before off and on for about 6 years but have been lifting natty for much longer. I am 33 yrs old about 12% bf 185lb and diet is on point. I count calories and hit my macros. Train 6 days a week lifting and 45 min 3/wk cardio.
      my aim is aesthetic not to be a mass monster.

      I am currently doing Keto off and on 6 weeks at a time with good success.
      After Keto I start a 16 week aas cycle to put on some lean mass.
      This cycle is looking at 4 iu eod protocol.
      I am about 2 weeks into the gh already and started ed for first month to asses tolerance of Qtropin

      weeks 1-30 4 iu gh tapered up from 2 ed and transitioning
      weeks 8-24 500mg test e
      weeks 8-24 800mg primo e
      weeks 8-24 400mg mast e
      weeks 8-26 HCG 200 iu eod
      aromasin 10mg eod

      weeks 26-30 pct nolva/clomid
      weeks 26-30 4 iu gh eod

      I compared all protocols for gh, 5-2, 6-1, e3d, ed, and I have decided to do eod not soley for cost benefit but because there are studies out there that show your natty gh may take awhile to recover from dosing ed vs eod or e3d. The purpose of my cycle is to shred and add some lean mass, I would be happy to add 10-15 lbs lean mass this cycle.

      If anyone has any advice how I can tweak this and make this better, I am shooting for around 7% bf hopefully after this cycle. I also have var on hand if I wanted to add that in as well.

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      Bumping for advice

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      Post your diet. Let's see that first

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      Doing keto atm right now since priming for aas I am at 1850 which is my rmr.
      When aas starts it will be

      CARBS:
      320 G PER DAY.
      PROTEIN: 210 G PER DAY.
      FATS: 80 G PER DAY

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      I think you need to either lean bulk or cut. Your basically want to gain muscle and lose fat. Its possible, but not no 15lbs plus man. I am being real, unless your a genetic freak. I would first decide that and go from there

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      Switch the primo for EQ, in personal experience much better results for you goals.
      Have you used primo before? I thought it was weak and waste of gear and high volume

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      Quote Originally Posted by animal23 View Post
      I think you need to either lean bulk or cut. Your basically want to gain muscle and lose fat. Its possible, but not no 15lbs plus man. I am being real, unless your a genetic freak. I would first decide that and go from there
      I have been priming every 6 weeks so basically I will cut on keto then bulk, not trying to do both at the same time sorry if it sounded that way.

      I am hoping to be around 10% bf when I finish Keto at the end of April, and then come May bulk commencement begins.

      I have used EQ in the past never primo but I've been reading up on it lately and what really stands out for me are the low to no side effects. Primobolan is considered a safe steroid that even though considered mild can produce quality and keepable gains.

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      FUCK EQ!!

      thats all..


      no seriously..
      i would keep with the primo... i see what you are trying to accomplish with the rebound..
      smart..
      but i would cut further than @ “%10”..
      you’ll get a better partition and can gain alot more quality weight..

      thats the only thing i suggest..
      get shred NASTY and FUCK EQ..

      carry on!

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      Why are you using masteron if your bulking if your using an anti estrogen?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DragonNRG View Post
      Doing keto atm right now since priming for aas I am at 1850 which is my rmr.
      When aas starts it will be

      CARBS:
      320 G PER DAY.
      PROTEIN: 210 G PER DAY.
      FATS: 80 G PER DAY
      i also wouldnt jump my carbs up to this..
      i would ‘taper’ up to this safetly..

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