Yeah that sounds like the general consensus. I’m on a lower dose of Letro now and things are improving significantly and I’m still fucking like a rabbit twice a day so I won’t complain just yet.
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Happy to chime in on this MadMaverick717 , First off , I am the Most gyno prone juicer on the face of the earth. With about 15yrs AAS experience, I have Finally concluded that letro at max dose (some of my BOP brotha's are going to think I'm outta my mind for doing / saying this but I don't give AF. I get labs done every month so I know what works.) of 2.5mg/ed is the Only AI protocol that will combat , reverse , control my gyno if I want to run more than 300mg - 500mgs Test/wk. I tried it all starting with Arimadex , got gyno , had to shut cycle down and do pct , then Aromasin , 1st at 12.5mgs/eod , then 12.5mgs/ed , then 25mgs/eod , then 25mgs/ed. Got the tingle at this dose but didn't want to shut cycle down and do so I switched to letro mid-cycle felt gyno "tingle" at 1.25mgs/3x/wk, upped it to 1.25mgs/eod, tingle again , upped it to 1.25mgs/ed, tingle , then 2.5mgs/3x/wk , same , then 2.5mgs/eod. Same. Finally, I said F it. Went to 2.5mgs ef'nd. Still have a tiny little bb and occasional tingle under 1 nip but gyno stays under control , my estradiol finally tests normal and I'm running / able to run 500mgsTest/wk + 750mgs EQ/wk plus lots of other goodies like MastP , TrenA , Tren Base and orals such as Anavar , Proviron, Epistane and PheraPlex. Through years of trial and error , I've Finally found an on cycle program that works for me.
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Hell yea bro! I mean, there is no reason to hate. Without different suggestions and experiences amongst everyone we wouldn’t really know exactly what options to even try in the first place! I am still using trial and error to figure out what AI exactly works for me, that’s for sure. I take that back..what AI works to control the lumps!
The thing is Aro 12.5 EOD kept my Estrogen at 27-30 all day. I felt AMAZING..buuuut still have those stubborn lumps! I’m actually using the Letro now. So you said you run 2.5 Letro ED throughout the whole cycle? Sorry if I misread that. How does that feel? Sex drive? Dick functionality? I haven’t had any issues yet but have not gotten past .5mgs yet either.
I actually have read some good posts and gotten some good insight to gyno surgery as well. If you don’t go to a doc that specializes in that area, that surgery can really do a number on the physique of your chest. Not that I’m competing but still, I have seen some pics and was like damn! I’d rather combat the lumps then deal with that. Plus my doc is a VA doc and even though I could easily get the surgery, they definitely do not specialize in it and the guys I know that have had it, two years later their chest still looks pretty weird. To each their own! I’m just here to learn and do what works for me and tell my story!
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Definitely all depends on the person, I'm doing the letro protocol now and after almost 2 weeks on 2.5mgs I had to drop it to 2mgs today my mental state of mind was taking an absolute beating and my dick ain't workin though my lump has halved in size I'm going to decrease by 0.5 every 3days till I get to 0.5 ED by that time my PPL Ralox should be here and I'll be adding that ED with either 0.5 of adex or 0.5 letro or 6.25 asin on pin days
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I think its also important to understand that liquid versions of AI's IMHO are not nearly as potent as the pharma quality tabs. I'm not knocking any sponsor but there is a difference. If you think gear is faked or under-dosed, how easy do you think it would be to do the same with liquids?
Its too cheap to not have these on hand and its not worth it to skimp on price.
I choose aromasin because even though its a suicidal inhibitor, it will only at best control 80% of estrogen. There is no rebound with aromasin and its not as harsh on lipids. I don't know the entire science behind it but I don't think you could wipe out all estrogen at even 10x the dose with aromasin.
I think peoples mood swings are primarily because they yo-yo their estrogen. Yes letro will knock out lumps but it does so because it wipes estrogen down to nothing. That will cause mood swings as well as a loss of gains. Armidex is also great at knocking estro out but its also harsh on your joints.
SO I guess the moral to this rant is, buy good quality AI's, but what works for you and be happy.
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