Thread: Increasing Calories while on cycle?

Originally Posted by Beau

Cheers for all the mixed response's, i defiantly didn't expect to get that many reply's to be honest.

OK first thing first, it was late and i was tired when i posted the original post.. i should have included more info and reasoning behind my question and accept the few response's i got that where kind of blunt in regards to the "upping the protein a given".

My thought process behind the upping the protein (i would be upping fats/carbs also) was due to Protein synthesis and the affects the gear will have.. that is all. i was looking for personal theory's and personal input on what people have actually done, Now i didn't stat what my stats are or my goals are either which is obviously a major part in my question.

stats below, Hoping to put on and retain around 15lbs - 22lbs (7kg - 10kg)
5.5" (168cm)
187lbs (85kg)
body fat - Guessing 18% - 20%
3200 calories per day
Cycle will be basic as it is my first - 500mg Test E p/w

Appreciate the responses so far BOP

I am 5'7 and 191lbs last dexa scan showed me at 25% bf. I tried something different this time with my diet. I personally found a higher protein and higher fat with lower carbs looks like it helped with leaning out more. To gain mass, I lowered my protein a bit and did higher carbs and lower fat. I am going in on the 3rd of may to get another dexa scan so then I will know what my bf gain/loss was compared to LBM gain/loss

I love math and equations and after much playing around I came to about 1.5g per LBM lb or 1.2g per TBW while geared for protein.

Good luck with your first run! Also happy to see someone starting decent and not blasting 1000 out the gates.

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Originally Posted by Cmack053

Wow someone actually did research and chose a basic and responsible first cycle...maybe all isnt lost

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Cheers, I've even had my bloods done prior too... this is something I've thought about for years so i want to get the most out of it as possible. I always try to do the best at everything in all aspects of life. If your going to do something you might aswell do it to the best of your abilities... slightly ocd in some areas my wife tells me

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

Perfect first cycle.
Would like to 250 @ 2 times a week

Yep, 250 x 2 p/w . Got all my pct and AI's covered too

Originally Posted by Drillit

I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

How many grams of carbohydrates are you currently taking in brother?

Originally Posted by Diesel1965

How many grams of carbohydrates are you currently taking in brother?

Currently 400 grams.

First of all, protein is highly overrated in the bodybuilding world. Guys talk about 2-3g per pound of body weight which is absolutely retarded and wrong. 1g is plenty. It’s the other calories you may need to increase if anything. A lot of people try too hard and all it does is slow them down in the long run with constipation etc.

Curious, how long have you been lifting?


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1.5g at most for me anyway. Some of these guys may do okay with a shit Loads more but I’m guessing they have slow metabolisms as well. However it’s not necessary to eat that much. Give yourself a small increase over your natural anabolic amount and go with that first. 3g of protein per pound of body weight is definitely not the norm for most people. That is a lot and it’s simply not necessary especially when you have protein synthesis in overdrive.


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Originally Posted by Drillit

I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

What’s your weight?


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