Thread: Increasing Calories while on cycle?

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

Originally Posted by Beau

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

Protein for sure. But we would need more information mate. Stats, goals, etc!!!

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Originally Posted by Beau

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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Originally Posted by NightHawkDC2

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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Agreed. I run higher protein during a cut for the other benefits. Some people are so dumb assuming I am eating more because of the gear. Protein goes down during a bulk too Haha.

Glad to see someone who has some knowledge that is legit.

Cant speak much to the OP since I am female and idk if men are different. I would guess similiar concepts but more calories generally.

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Originally Posted by GymPrincess

Agreed. I run higher protein during a cut for the other benefits. Some people are so dumb assuming I am eating more because of the gear. Protein goes down during a bulk too Haha.

Glad to see someone who has some knowledge that is legit.

Cant speak much to the OP since I am female and idk if men are different. I would guess similiar concepts but more calories generally.

It's just normally harder to pack on muscle for women, AFAIK. You definitely can, it's just slower. All principles are same, I'd think. Women just have an added degree of difficulty.

Think of it this way you: You will gain/lose muscle AND fat when you cut/bulk. Training & gear skew the ratios favorably. More of what you gain ON will be muscle. Less you lose ON will be muscle. Trained individuals usually can't gain muscle in a calorie deficit. Gear CAN change that, depending on the drugs, program & individual.

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Originally Posted by NightHawkDC2

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

Originally Posted by Drillit

I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

How many grams of carbohydrates are you currently taking in brother?

Originally Posted by Diesel1965

How many grams of carbohydrates are you currently taking in brother?

Currently 400 grams.

Originally Posted by Drillit

I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

What’s your weight?


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Originally Posted by cherrybombfitnes

What’s your weight?


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204 as of yesterday.