Increasing Calories while on cycle?

**LASB** · 04-25-2019, 02:19 PM

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

**maxmuscle1** · 04-25-2019, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Beau

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

Protein for sure. But we would need more information mate. Stats, goals, etc!!!

Max

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**NightHawkDC2** · 04-25-2019, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Beau

BOP - Hopefully this is the correct section, if not please point me in the right direction.

Just about to start my first cycle and am still questioning the amount of calories i will be aiming for while on.

My question is, do you increase your calories when on cycle? i'm assuming upping protein will be a given.

Cheers BOP

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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**GymPrincess** · 04-25-2019, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by NightHawkDC2

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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Agreed. I run higher protein during a cut for the other benefits. Some people are so dumb assuming I am eating more because of the gear. Protein goes down during a bulk too Haha.

Glad to see someone who has some knowledge that is legit.

Cant speak much to the OP since I am female and idk if men are different. I would guess similiar concepts but more calories generally.

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**maxmuscle1** · 04-25-2019, 03:03 PM

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**Drillit** · 04-25-2019, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by NightHawkDC2

I seriously never understood the "upping the protein" philosophy. If you're eating ~1g/lb of bodyweight, you are GOLDEN. Seriously, your body becomes MORE EFFICIENT at partitioning on gear, so "let's eat MORE protein!" I don't get that.

Ppl think they need more protein bulking than cutting, and more on cycle than off. Both of those are backwards.

Calories: are you bulking or cutting? That's what decides how many cals to eat...not the gear. Just realize that everything will be skewed to muscle gain on cycle. Do you want to be leaner or build size? THAT decides your calorie level...and if you can't make that decision, maybe it's not time for you to jump on gear.

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I’ll have to disagree with the protein quantity. On cycle, the gear lets your body use more nutrients (protein too). Off cycle, your body efficiently partitions 1g per lb of lean mass. On cycle you can take in much more. If your putting in the work in the gym, more protein=more new lean mass.
I currently get about 350g of protein per day (obviously bulking) and would not gain near as much muscle if I only took in 200.
I do agree that at some point your going to get diminishing returns but I don’t think it’s at 1lb per gram for someone who’s “on”.

**NightHawkDC2** · 04-25-2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by GymPrincess

Agreed. I run higher protein during a cut for the other benefits. Some people are so dumb assuming I am eating more because of the gear. Protein goes down during a bulk too Haha.

Glad to see someone who has some knowledge that is legit.

Cant speak much to the OP since I am female and idk if men are different. I would guess similiar concepts but more calories generally.

It's just normally harder to pack on muscle for women, AFAIK. You definitely can, it's just slower. All principles are same, I'd think. Women just have an added degree of difficulty.

Think of it this way you: You will gain/lose muscle AND fat when you cut/bulk. Training & gear skew the ratios favorably. More of what you gain ON will be muscle. Less you lose ON will be muscle. Trained individuals usually can't gain muscle in a calorie deficit. Gear CAN change that, depending on the drugs, program & individual.

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**animal23** · 04-25-2019, 03:59 PM

I'm cutting and eating 350g of protein
Gear increases protein synthesis!
Ratios go out the window! Pay attention to the mirror. Need to figure out if you can handle high carbs. Each person is different. You may need to do higher fats or a mix. It varies

**Biggaintime** · 04-25-2019, 04:01 PM

I'll keep it simple kind of..
Take it or leave it. There's a million ways to skin a cat but when it comes to growing or shrinking I guess there's really only two ways. And thats more calories or less calories.

Eating just enough protein to prevent a deficiency may not exactly lead to the best possible performance. You've got to motha fuckn eat to grow. Obviously your size and weight will matter I'm sure you're not a 400 lb strongman eating 10 to 12 thousand calories a day. Look at Michael Phelps what does he eat 10000 calories a day? He burns a lot of calories you can see his oblique muscles he's in pretty good shape. In order for him to grow he would have to eat more than 10,000 calories a day if he also kept the same routine I'm swimming and working out . How many calories a day are you eating? If I'm underweight I can bulk off as little as 1200 calories a day. Again I would have to be underweight to do that. If I'm at weight I would need a hell of a lot more than that to grow. There's a reason why guys are drinking 15 eggs before they go to bed. Those are the type of guys that are on stage . The proof is in the pudding . So often I don't get enough protein. This hinders me . I wish I would practice what I preach more often . If a guy can grow and put on 40 to 60 lb more weight than he is natural off 1 pound per 1 gram I protein I would consider that guy very lucky or extremely good genetics . Ectomorph mesomorph endomorph weight size what you do for a living and your activities will make a difference there's no doubt about that .

What do steroids do? How do they work? I'm sure you already know that steroids cause your muscles to synthesize more protein. This is very important. This is a pretty good damn reason to take protein. I want everybody to keep in mind then obviously you need carbs and fat to grow as well. And when you're cutting your catabolic. That's as catabolic as you're going to get. You absolutely need protein it's your carbs if you want to cut down. Now I have just coincidentally proved that you need carbs to grow. This is one thing people sometimes forget.

If you were taking 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of body weight. And you do not increase your protein to feed your steroids then your steroids will go hungry in layman's terms and you are wasting your time.

Google copy paste
Eat High-Protein Foods. Anabolic steroids increase protein synthesis, which in turn, promotes muscle growth and repair. Your muscles act as a sponge and soak up the protein, carbs and other nutrients you consume.

If you're taking steroids and you want to grow. In fact let's leave the steroids out if you want to grow in general whether that be muscle or fat you have to eat if you want to gain fat you need to eat a lot of bulshit if you want to gain at quick pizza hamburgers milkshakes and make sure you sit on the couch and don't move you want it all to store as fat. If you're trying to gain muscle then you need to work out daily you need to stay active and you need to eat cleaner than you would if you were trying to gain fat but none the less you would have to eat any more than you normally would just like a growing baby. Kids go through growth spurts and they eat a lot. That's just common sense. It's important for your kids to have a well-balanced diet including protein.

Well I rambled on and probably didn't answer the question at all. I'm not your coach. I'm not your personal physician. I'm only 204th the smartest guy on here. Definitely not top 10. But I do know Common Sense. Yes up your calories and up your protein.

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**maxmuscle1** · 04-25-2019, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by animal23

I'm cutting and eating 350g of protein
Gear increases protein synthesis!
Ratios go out the window! Pay attention to the mirror. Need to figure out if you can handle high carbs. Each person is different. You may need to do higher fats or a mix. It varies

Agreed! Proof is staring at the mirror with all that you excess protein! Lol

Max

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