Thread: First time with UG lab gear sustanon possible injection issue advice needed.

Originally Posted by bulldogger

Hello

Been training on and off 20 years been on very hard training 5 years and trt for 1 year. Doing my first cycle now. I am doing 300mg sustanon 300 by pharmacon. My TRT Dose is 150mg of Cypionate per week.

Now with this amount do i count my cycle as 300mg per week or is my cycle 425mg per week as I count the trt as part of the dosage?

One question I have is about the half-life of this. I have heard everything form 7 days, which I know not to be accurate up to 30 days. Which is it? I am on my 4th week and will have trt bloods drawn the beginning of August for my TRT and don't want them totally out of whack. The half-life will depend on if I do 10 or 12 weeks. I am not able to get another ester at this time as I know that is the first thing that will be advised. A ten week cycle will end May 5th and a 12 week cycle will end 5/19 and bloods would be drawn about 8/3-8/5.

Here is the question about the shots. I have done four of them. All from the same vial. one i hit a vein and had a bruise. Another one was no issue . Two of them ( one glute, one front thigh) i had a red rash and a sort of mass. I know the gear is not contaminated and have been told some people get this. Some of what I have heard is I might not be getting it all into muscle, but some into some fat. I am about 17% bodyfat hence lower dosage cycles and have dropped 4% bodyfat since being on the gear since February of this year. I had also been told some people are sensitive to certain oils. I contacted pharmacon and was told its grapeseed oil. My trt test is cottonseed oil and has no reaction. When i hit a vein with that it just was a bit of a bruise. Any advice is appreciated. ON my question not english skills.

What size needle did u use brother. Cuz grapeseed oil is pretty standard I know ppl get reactions from mct oil.

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Originally Posted by bulldogger

Hello

Been training on and off 20 years been on very hard training 5 years and trt for 1 year. Doing my first cycle now. I am doing 300mg sustanon 300 by pharmacon. My TRT Dose is 150mg of Cypionate per week.

Now with this amount do i count my cycle as 300mg per week or is my cycle 425mg per week as I count the trt as part of the dosage?

One question I have is about the half-life of this. I have heard everything form 7 days, which I know not to be accurate up to 30 days. Which is it? I am on my 4th week and will have trt bloods drawn the beginning of August for my TRT and don't want them totally out of whack. The half-life will depend on if I do 10 or 12 weeks. I am not able to get another ester at this time as I know that is the first thing that will be advised. A ten week cycle will end May 5th and a 12 week cycle will end 5/19 and bloods would be drawn about 8/3-8/5.

Here is the question about the shots. I have done four of them. All from the same vial. one i hit a vein and had a bruise. Another one was no issue . Two of them ( one glute, one front thigh) i had a red rash and a sort of mass. I know the gear is not contaminated and have been told some people get this. Some of what I have heard is I might not be getting it all into muscle, but some into some fat. I am about 17% bodyfat hence lower dosage cycles and have dropped 4% bodyfat since being on the gear since February of this year. I had also been told some people are sensitive to certain oils. I contacted pharmacon and was told its grapeseed oil. My trt test is cottonseed oil and has no reaction. When i hit a vein with that it just was a bit of a bruise. Any advice is appreciated. ON my question not english skills.

Also is the redness still there how long has it been do u have a fever?

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Originally Posted by bulldogger

No fever did not have one from the last one which was shot 3 either. The last one was red for about 5 days and the mass was gone in like three. Guage is 22 and i think its a 1 inch by bd. I just got some 23 guage when i was out of town where you don't need a script. I am also massaging the area. I also thought about injecting into the delt as there is no issue with the TRT gear, but if i get a bump from every shot of sustonan i am trying to keep it on the down low since my wife is not aware I am taking extra and want to keep it that way. If i just have to quit the sustanon ( damn I have 5 vials) i do have some 10g dbol tabs, but was told you front load not at the end of a cycle. my next cycle that will start in august or september I have EQ500mg alread for. By dragon pharama also from pharmacon. I did not buy it the person i got it from gets it from them and buys lots of stuff at once and the only test he has is sustanon hence i am not able to get another ester.

It may be the test prop in the sus. Alot of ppl get a reaction from prop. Sus gives me soreness. Maybe try to split up shots into smaller shots idk. That needle size u shouldn't be hitting fat. My advice is inject slower and heat up the sus in warm water for 10 or so minutes then Inject and massage the area. I use a tennis ball and give the area like a deep tissue massage. Also u dont have to run dbol at the beginning most ppl do just to start a cycle but it can be used to break through plateaus or shit just to size up fast and get strength gains. I use it as a pre workout for strength and pumps.

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And on the half life. For myself with sus or e or cyp i do every 3 days. My personal use I want stable blood levels. U dont want your level dropping and rising. Prop every other day. Ace everyday. Half life 7 to 9 days depends on many factors, injection site, scar tissue build up

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Originally Posted by bulldogger

OK on heating it up do you mean take the vial and heat it up or put it in the syringe like i am going to inject it and then heat it up? Also if i do 1/2 cc in each thigh. I take it i should use a seperate syringe even if its the same day and time for the shot? Also is there any inconspicuous places? i thought about calves over even between the toes like the junkies do, but then i would not be hitting a muscle. Damn i love the strength gains so far, but hate this issue.

So I put my vial into a bowl of hot water. I make sure that it doesn't go all the way to the top or over the stopper. It may mess up the label on some but idc. U can change syringe if u want. If I'm doing them at the same time I dont change I just hit and then hit the other place. You are using bd needles they are the best and sharpest so you shouldn't have a problem with dulling but that's up to u. Example last night I did 2cc in right quad then 1cc in right delt. Back to back no problems. I spilt it cuz the compound I'm using has pip. Calves man that's scary lol iv hit my rear delt, lat, quads, glutes, delts, chest and tris. Easiest for me was quad delt lat glute. But u need somebody to help with lat and rear delt. I get to many calf cramps already I dont wanna shoot and get more cramps. Hope this helps.

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