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05-10-2019, 11:10 AM
#111
Originally Posted by
dumbbellpress
YellowNinja, my apologies. I could have sworn I read somewhere that you are running 700mg/week Tren Ace per week. I think I got you mixed up with another member. I am sorry about that buddy.
Yes, there is a big difference between 350mg/week Tren and 700mg/week Tren. Your liver and kidneys will take a beating on 700mg/week for very long runs like 13 weeks. 350mg, not so much.
My thoughts and feelings still stand though, you are in my thoughts and prayers to be safe and have a very productive, healthy cycle. Hit it hard Man and do well!!
Way to man up and apologize, I respect a man that can say he made a mistake. All is good, I appreciate your concern.
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05-10-2019, 11:16 AM
#112
Originally Posted by
Riggs
The problem IMO is the doses I see nowadays. When I first started and added a good 20lbs it was Sus 250 a week and Deca 200 a week. That' was it. Then as time went on my doses increased in its natural progression. But when ugl's hit the scene holy fuck me sideways I'm seeing guys pining fucking 1g or 1.5g of Test. A lot of guys hit Tren with the mind set that it's like all other compounds in regards to dose. Geezus guys look at its A:A its 500/500 what the fuck you think that means? I see guys pining Tren like their pining Test or Deca. It's 5 x more Androgenic than Test. This is where the mental sides come in to play. I had found a medical journal backed by a Dr of course that explained Trens Androgenic properties as causing our brain to go into hyper drive and once manageable psychological traits or dysfunctions become unmanageable.....and for the life of me I can't find the archive I'm hoping I will somehow it was lost with my old phone.....it stated that there is no way of knowing what underlying psychological dysfunctions will become unmanageable with Tren use. Now next it gave a parallel....it stated its like when potential fighter pilots are testing their limits and they are exposed to gforce, one guy loses his mind and shits the bed, the next guy yells "yeeeeehaaaaw" and loves it. So there's no telling with Tren until you try it and Test your own specific response. But we should use some common sense here......VERY few yell "yeeehaaaww" and enjoy being exposed to gforce.
I guess I'm lucky, because im definitely saying yeeeehaa, bring it on. I'm loving tren and my wife is loving it more. She was pissed when I first started gear again and absolutely hated me for it. Now she is loving it our relationship is 10 times better then it was. She has even helped me with my shot a few times she wont put the needle in but will push the plunger for me. Hell I even got her on some phentermine and a 10mg of var twice a day. We are both feeling better about ourselves and like I said its improved our relationship tremendously. We went from having sex onec every 2 weeks to 6-10 times a week
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05-10-2019, 12:06 PM
#113
Oh yah bro pining 4iu GH upon waking in a fasted state and doing cardio in a fasted state as well will literally shed any and all bf I have.
For me the most alluring attribute Tren possesses is the ability to add significant lean muscle mass and lose body fat. Cardio is good for me but I am naturally lean as it is so my challenge isn't cutting its cutting fat and adding lean muscle and then there's the massive strength gains Tren yields too. Ohh wait I'm forgetting the insane vascularity that my wife absolutely loves.
Tren is ideal for me on the tail end of a grueling blast and I'm fucking tired of force feeding. In this stage of my blast I don't use Tren so I can stop eating clean and be lazy I use it for its nutrient partitioning which allows for me to eat far less volume and still gain significant lean muscle mass. I just get so sick of the actual chewing that comes along with consuming 4500 cals ED. I have to eat every hour and a half/2 hours to stay Anabolic. At 6'3" and 236lbs I'm lighter than most of my friends except for one guy who's 5'5" and 185 and I eat more than all of em. I have to eat a massive amount of food just for maintenance. This is probably the single most attractive thing about it to me even more so than the ability to add muscle and lose fat simultaneously.
Yah Tren always raises my resting heart rate to @ 85 bpm, I've seen 92 & 93 a few times, and my BP makes an attempt at raising too but I manage it with Hawthorne Berry, Berberine, Turmeric, CoQ10, Fish Oil, Garlic and Red Rice Yeast. With this OTC protocol while on Tren my BP is usually @ 120/70
I'm ok with the night sweats but the insomnia combined with getting skull fucked by once manageable psychological dysfunctions is too much for me, my family and my career.
Tren is just an ass kicker on the body and I've never encouraged anyone who's come to me to start Tren except for one guy and he is a highly intelligent BB'r who is very cerebral in his approach to BB'ng. Hell by the time he came to me for cycle advice he was prepared. I'm also now more convinced than ever that anything above 30mg isn't necessary for the average AAS user who is just loookig for a bit of an edge. I've run 210mg week of Tren the last 3 times until this last time when I went back up to 350 Ace week and it proved to be too much. I've run Tren on every popular protocol, with high Test, low Test, low Test and high Mast, low Test and low Deca and what I've found to be ideal is
.7cc of SYNERGY X 300 (70mg each of Test P/NPP/Mast P everyday) week 1-16
.3cc of Tren Ace ED week 9-16
Var 20mg upon waking/20mg pwo
GH 2iu upon waking in a fasted state (no fasred cardio)/3iu p.m. (unless I run slin then I pulse GH)
12.5mg Asin EOD
.5mg Caber M/Th/Sat
1 cap Cialis ED
Tudca
NAC
Milk Thistle (when off orals)
**then the OTC protocol noted above**
Garlic
Fish Oil
CoQ10
Red Rice Yeast
Berberine
Hawthorn Berry
Turmeric
Originally Posted by
dumbbellpress
Tren increases my resting heart rate as well. Not to full-blown clinical tachycardia, but a typical increase in resting heart rate for me is from 60-65 BeatsPerMinute to about 85 BPMinute. There are so many deleterious side effects from Tren I could write a long novel about this drug. IMO, Tren is a "Young Mans drug"...the older and older I get, the less desirable I find it to be. As I get older and older, the #1 thing I find that makes the most difference in my physique is (60) minutes of cardio, 7 days per week, 365 days per year. For me, Cardio Cardio Cardio Cardio Cardio makes all the difference in the world to my physique.
I not only look great on (60) minutes of cardio every day, but I feel great, I sleep great, I have less stress and anxiety, I receive tons and tons of compliments from Men and Women alike. My blood pressure is extremely low, I have no need to sleep with a nasal CPAP machine like so many other dudes do who have been using gear for many years like me.
To me, when I hear guys say things like "I need DNP and Tren to cut up".....that is just a crutch and an excuse because their diet is not on point and they are not willing to be religious about doing cardio every day or at least 5 days per week at the very minimum.
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05-10-2019, 12:07 PM
#114
Originally Posted by
dumbbellpress
YellowNinja, my apologies. I could have sworn I read somewhere that you are running 700mg/week Tren Ace per week. I think I got you mixed up with another member. I am sorry about that buddy.
Yes, there is a big difference between 350mg/week Tren and 700mg/week Tren. Your liver and kidneys will take a beating on 700mg/week for very long runs like 13 weeks. 350mg, not so much.
My thoughts and feelings still stand though, you are in my thoughts and prayers to be safe and have a very productive, healthy cycle. Hit it hard Man and do well!!
RESPECT
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05-10-2019, 12:10 PM
#115
Bro if that's my old Phentermine and Lady Var she's on my wife fucking loved that combo the only difference is she did 2iu GH upon waking in a fasted state with fasted cardio and holy hell bro she looked amazing at 45. I swear she looked better than she did in her 30's.
Originally Posted by
Yellowninja
I guess I'm lucky, because im definitely saying yeeeehaa, bring it on. I'm loving tren and my wife is loving it more. She was pissed when I first started gear again and absolutely hated me for it. Now she is loving it our relationship is 10 times better then it was. She has even helped me with my shot a few times she wont put the needle in but will push the plunger for me. Hell I even got her on some phentermine and a 10mg of var twice a day. We are both feeling better about ourselves and like I said its improved our relationship tremendously. We went from having sex onec every 2 weeks to 6-10 times a week
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05-10-2019, 12:19 PM
#116
IME guys Test/Mast/DHB is a bad ass combo guys for a solid recomp......next I'd go with Test/Primo/EQ fucking LOVE it, but it is a long and pricey run.
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05-11-2019, 01:39 AM
#117
Originally Posted by
Riggs
Bro if that's my old Phentermine and Lady Var she's on my wife fucking loved that combo the only difference is she did 2iu GH upon waking in a fasted state with fasted cardio and holy hell bro she looked amazing at 45. I swear she looked better than she did in her 30's.
No she ran out of the old phentermine but I found her some pharmaceutical grade phent
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05-12-2019, 12:14 PM
#118
Well my brother's and Sis I'm happy to report the mental fog is gone and I feel fucking fantastic. I haven't felt this good in a while. Spent the last few days with my girls, blew way too much money, and spoiled the hell outta the wife yesterday for Mother's Day.
What I would like to say, now that Tren has once again been eliminated from my system, is we are a bunch of fucking muscle hungry fools for compromising our personal relationships among other things like our careers when we pin Tren. All that's coursing thru my veins now is Test P/Mast P and I do believe I'm going back to SYNERGY. The blend I came up with 2yrs ago in a moment just like this and I was looking for something to get close to Tren.
Nuff said guys. I appreciate all of you and the support I've been shown over the years. We truly are a brotherhood.
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05-12-2019, 05:25 PM
#119
I hear ya about tren.
Love and hate of it.
NPP is always another route
Much respect
Brotha
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05-14-2019, 01:24 AM
#120
Still felling better than I have in years. I'm down to 7.6% bf and this GH is fucking fantastic. The Deca is keeping me a little wet where it counts and I'm fucking so happy. Guys you pin Deca ED, in low doses and you'll not experience the massive bloat.
But the Tren is outta my system and everyone around me is telling me they are so glad to see me back to my old happy go lucky guy who's always having fun, laughing and smiling. Feels good to be good to the ones I love.
I'm sooooooo happy the Tren is outta my system. No more bullshit and walking around like a swole up and shredded zombie.
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