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      muscle wasting and other nasty sides....

      im currently running some dbol decca n sust. ive gone into a period of muscle wasting, painful joints, lethargy, moodiness,migraines, and did i say muscle wasting? my numbers are lower but i have lost a lot of mass. i think it is from over training and i need to shut it down for a week. could this be from low estrogen as well or anything else? do i ne4ed to keep my test levels the same since im only not working out for a week? im really disappointed that i let myself do this, the gains were rolling in and i got greedy. if it aint broke dont fix it.

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      What's ur dbol dose and how long has it been in ur regimen?

      Are u using an AI during this cycle?

      Too low estrogen can cause all of those sides. Maybe cut the AI and/or serm out and save for pct.

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      dbol is at 30 mg a day. ive been on this gear for three weeks. ive been taking adex eod at 1 mg.

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      Yea, IMO I'd cut the Adex back to .5mg to 1mg a week cut into 2 dose perhaps .5 mon and .5 thurs this is how I run it.

      Dbol dose is a little on the low side but I don't know your goal just remember not to run it more than about 6-8 weeks again IMO. Dbol I love but it doesnt me, it gives me migraines the first week lol.y second advice would be if the Adex cu back doesn't help try cutting out the dbol. I'm sure some other better experienced bros will chime in here too

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      Oh and if ur not having estrogen issues or gyno, as little as .25mg a eod will suffice.
      Last edited by VIOLATER; 08-28-2012 at 01:02 PM.

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      its my first time running dbol on workout days i take another 25mgs preworkout.

      but im confused about al the muscle wasting that im having thats what makes me think its my muscles are worn out and cant recover from the workouts...

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      I know. The rest sounds like too low estrogen. Sounds like ur like me and have naturally low estrogen thus why I said .25 eod or 2x week works just fine for me less I feel gyno coming on then I up it. The wasting is odd maybe te week off will help. Hopefully a vet will chime in here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VIOLATER View Post
      I know. The rest sounds like too low estrogen. Sounds like ur like me and have naturally low estrogen thus why I said .25 eod or 2x week works just fine for me less I feel gyno coming on then I up it. The wasting is odd maybe te week off will help. Hopefully a vet will chime in here.
      Naturally low estrogen? You lucky mother. No fat, no gyno, no emotions, your like the terminator.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Johnnyboy004 View Post
      Naturally low estrogen? You lucky mother. No fat, no gyno, no emotions, your like the terminator.
      I guess when u look at that side lol. Still sucks having the natural low test to go along with it.

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      This is the first i seen somone react this way. Always keep the injections and orals, on a time base, meaning try to inject them the same time every time you inject and same for the dball, unless you take it all at once. The Adex was also high on your end so lower that to .5mg.

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