IMPORTANT GROWTH HORMONE INFO!!!

**m314** · 05-23-2019, 03:49 PM

Is there a way to get around the lethargy side effect? I start getting extreme daytime sleepiness after a couple weeks at even 2 IU.

**maxmuscle1** · 05-23-2019, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by m314

Is there a way to get around the lethargy side effect? I start getting extreme daytime sleepiness after a couple weeks at even 2 IU.

Just time and getting used to when to use it. Also stimulants, diet, and endurance supplements. I notice the sleepiness starts going away after week 5-6. Dietary intake is paramount. Some people just do one IM/sub q injection at night(still can have that damn daytime sleepy feeling). It does go away for myself.

Max

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**Enigma** · 05-23-2019, 04:11 PM

Lol! I missread your post. I was seeing 24x8 weeks at 1344usd. I was thinking “Damn max, hook me up with 800iu of pharma for $1344!
So much for my morning of slight but quickly passing elation.

4iu/day is good for me 5 days/week. I have gone up to 100mcgs T4 in prep but usually stay at 50mcgs when using hgh.

Thyroid drugs are cheap here at Costco but Mexican Xerendip hgh is about $12usd for each 4iu kit. So, $12/day. That’s why I use (or used) Ace hgh from a sponsor. Lily Humatrope is $180usd for 16iu at Costco, which would have been a steal in 1994. Not now though.

**maxmuscle1** · 05-23-2019, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Enigma

Lol! I missread your post. I was seeing 24x8 weeks at 1344usd. I was thinking â€œDamn max, hook me up with 800iu of pharma for $1344!
So much for my morning of slight but quickly passing elation.

4iu/day is good for me 5 days/week. I have gone up to 100mcgs T4 in prep but usually stay at 50mcgs when using hgh.

Thyroid drugs are cheap here at Costco but Mexican Xerendip hgh is about $12usd for each 4iu kit. So, $12/day. Thatâ€™s why I use (or used) Ace hgh from a sponsor. Lily Humatrope is $180usd for 16iu at Costco, which would have been a steal in 1994. Not now though.

Lmao enigma, I’d be a rich man!! Pharma is definitely more expensive but so much cheaper than 10 years ago.

Max

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**Cmack053** · 05-23-2019, 04:21 PM

Ill try 25mcg a day for now. T4 is so cheap i just ordered 2 bottles of liquid at 400mcgs per ml × 60 ml haha. Easier to dose for me with an insulin pin.

Right o tha line!!

**Enigma** · 05-23-2019, 05:19 PM

A starting point for T4 is 50mcg titrated up over a week. (I use “titrated” but it really doesn’t work that way I realize.)

For T3 it’s 25mcg.

25mcg of T4 May only serve to shut down endogenous T3. Sort of like 100mg of Test/week does to nuts.

**itsBoogie** · 05-23-2019, 06:43 PM

Great info!

I've had the best results running in at low long cycles. I plan at least a 6 month to 8 month run.

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**Cmack053** · 05-23-2019, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Enigma

A starting point for T4 is 50mcg titrated up over a week. (I use â€œtitratedâ€ but it really doesnâ€™t work that way I realize.)

For T3 itâ€™s 25mcg.

25mcg of T4 May only serve to shut down endogenous T3. Sort of like 100mg of Test/week does to nuts.

I was taking 50mcg a day for a few days while i was on 2ius a day and i my blood work showed minor hyperthyroidism so now that im at 3ius a day for a while now i wanted to maybe introduce it but im thinking ill just wait til im on 4ius a day instead snd go with the 50mcg. I really dont think i need it quite yet but ive been so tired the psst week i thought i might have the beginning of hypothyroidism.

Right o tha line!!

**Enigma** · 05-24-2019, 05:45 PM

If you are taking exogenous thyroid meds, you should expect to see hyper, just like test level reading when using exogenous test.
If you are thinking you are hypo, T drugs might end up a way of life for you.

My friends who have had their thyroid destroyed because of Grave’s disease take only 50mcg of T4 a day. Typically. So my summation is that is a normal, replacement dosage.

**Santino101** · 05-24-2019, 06:13 PM

Can you use T3 or does it have to be T4? Someone school me here. I’ve been reading on growth and slin both. Have my first 100iu Black tops on their way now. Have a whole box of T3 I never used laying around. I will acquire T4 though if it is better suited. From what I understood T3 was stronger?

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