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    Thread: Bloods - Advice Wanted

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      Bloods - Advice Wanted

      Here are my bloods. I took blood 48 hours after last pin. 6 weeks into the cycle and will be starting Hgh at 2iu/day and moving it up to 4iu/day within a few weeks.

      600mg EQ/week
      500mgTest E/week

      Stopped oral Win and Tbol a week prior to bloods

      I am on 1mg pharmacy Anastrozole each time I pin which is twice a week. I see Estradiol is a little high but not sure if it is anything to be concerned about.

      I am concerned about the cholesterol and liver AST/ASL. I am taking Milk Thisel, NAC and TUDCA but still seems like ti is a problem.

      Also, tried to give blood to get the RBC down but they wouldn't take it b/c of Propecia so any suggestions there?

      Thanks for the help.

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      So that's your natural igf level?
      If I am reading correct it is that a Dam Good baseline!!
      How old r u?

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      Well the IFG level may be slightly elevated. I had 1 vial of The Provider's Blacktop batch #24 that was pretty old. They are 15ius. I think I did 2ius maybe 3-4 days before and the rest of it weeks before. I wasn't very consistent with it and figured levels would be back to close to normal so idk.

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      Your timing with your bloods is okay but you could have went a couple more days out more because you're still pretty much close to the cMax level with it tampering down.. but considering everything you're really not sitting in a bad place so to speak..

      Clearly your HDL is on the lower end most likely because of the winstrol, it will literally cut your levels at half within 3 days so it will take some time to get levels back up to normal.. in that department for now I would suggest consuming more unsaturated fats, get more avocados in your diet along with nuts..

      Your bun/creatine levels are what strikes me the most..
      You should focus on water loading, and try to stay more hydrated.. if those levels get any higher you will be borderline rhabdomyolysis..

      what I would suggest is just taking a few days off from the gym, try to minimize your dense macros, consume more fluids and stay hydrated..and lay off any supplementation that you may be taking whether it's protein powder, creatine, or any other powder base supplement..

      Your RBC level is not crazy off the charts and it is to be expected to be elevated..what you could do is call around at the blood banks and ask if they are taking any blood for research purposes.. it's a different option rather than donating blood for someone in need, in lieu your pint of blood can be used in clinical settings with experimental drugs with coagulating and other research purposes for anticoagulation..

      Considering where your total test levels are at your estradiol is that a pretty respectable level..

      We can try and Chase numbers all day, with attempting to get everything within a perfect spectrum but the reality is they will fluctuate and change throughout the day, and they will change day by day.. no matter how sensitive your blood work essay is it is still merely just a snapshot of what is currently going on at that moment, it can shift within the matter of hours..

      You also may want to consider incorporating 3,000mg choline and inositol, every day for the next 30 days. This is probably hands down one of the most effective and best liver assistant/aid protocols that you can do.. it literally can provide game-changing differences in your numbers.. you can do this while running gear oils/orals, or you can simply incorporate it every couple months, or even post cycle/blast..

      Nice IGF level BTW

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      Your timing with your bloods is okay but you could have went a couple more days out more because you're still pretty much close to the cMax level with it tampering down.. but considering everything you're really not sitting in a bad place so to speak..

      Clearly your HDL is on the lower end most likely because of the winstrol, it will literally cut your levels at half within 3 days so it will take some time to get levels back up to normal.. in that department for now I would suggest consuming more unsaturated fats, get more avocados in your diet along with nuts..

      Your bun/creatine levels are what strikes me the most..
      You should focus on water loading, and try to stay more hydrated.. if those levels get any higher you will be borderline rhabdomyolysis..

      what I would suggest is just taking a few days off from the gym, try to minimize your dense macros, consume more fluids and stay hydrated..and lay off any supplementation that you may be taking whether it's protein powder, creatine, or any other powder base supplement..

      Your RBC level is not crazy off the charts and it is to be expected to be elevated..what you could do is call around at the blood banks and ask if they are taking any blood for research purposes.. it's a different option rather than donating blood for someone in need, in lieu your pint of blood can be used in clinical settings with experimental drugs with coagulating and other research purposes for anticoagulation..

      Considering where your total test levels are at your estradiol is that a pretty respectable level..

      We can try and Chase numbers all day, with attempting to get everything within a perfect spectrum but the reality is they will fluctuate and change throughout the day, and they will change day by day.. no matter how sensitive your blood work essay is it is still merely just a snapshot of what is currently going on at that moment, it can shift within the matter of hours..

      You also may want to consider incorporating 3,000mg choline and inositol, every day for the next 30 days. This is probably hands down one of the most effective and best liver assistant/aid protocols that you can do.. it literally can provide game-changing differences in your numbers.. you can do this while running gear oils/orals, or you can simply incorporate it every couple months, or even post cycle/blast..

      Nice IGF level BTW
      I appreciate the time you took in writing that . I'll start on the 3,000mg choline and inositol/day in a couple days, eat more Avocado/nuts/Extra Virgin Olive oil and be sure to get more water in me.

      I'll be headed back for bloods again in a few weeks and hopefully everything will have improved. Thanks agin

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      Do u take any fish oil or krill oil??
      Glutathione injections would help detoxify liver/organs also.
      Last edited by chadmack282; 05-28-2019 at 01:40 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sojohndoe View Post
      I appreciate the time you took in writing that . I'll start on the 3,000mg choline and inositol/day in a couple days, eat more Avocado/nuts/Extra Virgin Olive oil and be sure to get more water in me.

      I'll be headed back for bloods again in a few weeks and hopefully everything will have improved. Thanks agin
      Definitely pull more bloods and be sure to keep us posted on your results for educational purposes.. this way readers who may find this in Google or even those that goes the community can learn and take something away from this with your experiences.. we have to keep each other in the know!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
      Your timing with your bloods is okay but you could have went a couple more days out more because you're still pretty much close to the cMax level with it tampering down.. but considering everything you're really not sitting in a bad place so to speak..

      Clearly your HDL is on the lower end most likely because of the winstrol, it will literally cut your levels at half within 3 days so it will take some time to get levels back up to normal.. in that department for now I would suggest consuming more unsaturated fats, get more avocados in your diet along with nuts..

      Your bun/creatine levels are what strikes me the most..
      You should focus on water loading, and try to stay more hydrated.. if those levels get any higher you will be borderline rhabdomyolysis..

      what I would suggest is just taking a few days off from the gym, try to minimize your dense macros, consume more fluids and stay hydrated..and lay off any supplementation that you may be taking whether it's protein powder, creatine, or any other powder base supplement..

      Your RBC level is not crazy off the charts and it is to be expected to be elevated..what you could do is call around at the blood banks and ask if they are taking any blood for research purposes.. it's a different option rather than donating blood for someone in need, in lieu your pint of blood can be used in clinical settings with experimental drugs with coagulating and other research purposes for anticoagulation..

      Considering where your total test levels are at your estradiol is that a pretty respectable level..

      We can try and Chase numbers all day, with attempting to get everything within a perfect spectrum but the reality is they will fluctuate and change throughout the day, and they will change day by day.. no matter how sensitive your blood work essay is it is still merely just a snapshot of what is currently going on at that moment, it can shift within the matter of hours..

      You also may want to consider incorporating 3,000mg choline and inositol, every day for the next 30 days. This is probably hands down one of the most effective and best liver assistant/aid protocols that you can do.. it literally can provide game-changing differences in your numbers.. you can do this while running gear oils/orals, or you can simply incorporate it every couple months, or even post cycle/blast..

      Nice IGF level BTW
      On the 3000mg of choline and inositol how do I take that? The pills are 500mg each so is it 6 of them in one sitting or do I break it up?

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      Quote Originally Posted by chadmack282 View Post
      Do u take any fish oil or krill oil??
      Glutathione injections would help detoxify liver/organs also.
      I take fish oil and each tuna everyday too

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      Quote Originally Posted by sojohndoe View Post
      On the 3000mg of choline and inositol how do I take that? The pills are 500mg each so is it 6 of them in one sitting or do I break it up?
      You can take all at once.. I take them with a meal, something light like a English muffin with jam, than I wait about 45 min before I pound my next legit meal..

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