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Alright this is aggressive but it’s what I do
Last day test e shot
14 days hcg 1000iu eod
Week 3-8
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50/50
Week 3 aromasin 25mg Ed
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Brother, I usually wouldn’t recommend high dose of anything to anyone because I think it’s reckless on my part. However, in the case of EQ, I think you’ll be really disappointed with only 400 mgs a week. By the time you really start feeling that shit you still won’t get much out of it at that dosage. And with EQ cycles you really need to run it at least 16 weeks and then you still have to factor in another 3-4 weeks before you start PCT. That’s a long time to be on cycle and will require an aggressive PCT. Might as well get the most out of it in that case. I would run it a minimum of 600-800 a week. Like what was stated earlier. EQ really shines starting at 1000mgs a week.
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Ok well I have an extra vial of eq and sust already. the cycle I just ordered came with test c and eq nolva and clomid and I did read eq should be a long cycle but I could cut the eq and just run the test I’m in the planning phase I just want to have it all planned out right before I start you know
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Originally Posted by
shotgun-207
Ok well I have an extra vial of eq and sust already. the cycle I just ordered came with test c and eq nolva and clomid and I did read eq should be a long cycle but I could cut the eq and just run the test I’m in the planning phase I just want to have it all planned out right before I start you know
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IF you really must run EQ and you’re going to PCT, you’re gonna have to run a 20 week blast to get the most out of it. Test C week 1-20, EQ week 1-16. And I agree with what the other guy said about 400/wk being too low. You should do 800mg/wk minimum, it’s a mild compound.
So in order to PCT properly after you’re gonna need the majority of that Eq to clear, hence why you're dropping in 4 weeks prior to the Test, and 6 weeks prior to you actually starting PCT. General rule of thumb is 5 half lives to clear. So that’s 70 days for EQ....this is why it’s not a great compound to run if you’re not BnC.
As far as HCG, you DO NOT run it during the PCT, it mimics LH, therefor suppressing your own LH production. I would personally just run in throughout your entire blast, 3 days a week(MWF) @ 150iu, and then stop hcg 3 days before you start pct.
I’ve never done a PCT (I’m BnC) but through my readings I really don’t think clomid is necessary and it’s more of an old school of thought to run two SERMs together. I would just do 20mgs Nolva for 6 weeks. Use aromasin on cycle and you will not have to worry about estrogen rebound during PCT like you would with adex. And DO NOT take 25mg of aromasin ED on week 3 of your PCT like the one guy suggested above. That is retarded and a recipe to feel like absolute shit.
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Clearly he has no idea that aromasin in the short term increases testosterone production which is the point when you start your pct as week 3 is your pct. You’ve already stated you don’t pct.
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Bicep
Clearly he has no idea that aromasin in the short term increases testosterone production which is the point when you start your pct as week 3 is your pct. You’ve already stated you don’t pct.
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Perhaps it does, but you already have SERMs doing that. I CAN guarantee that the asin will crash the shit outta you’re e2 tho, taking WEEKS to recover for that. Seems extremely counter productive to pct and very poor advise to give. I’ve never once seen anyone recommend this.
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EQ can combat estro sides so be aware of that before you start taking .25mg of Adex every day if I read that correctly.
If you're going to run EQ run it at 800mg or more per week for 20wk min. IMO. Not trying to talk you out of it but that's what's worked for me the best.
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Ya the arimidex I might cut in half to start but I figured I’d get some aromasin and letro just Incase. The arimidex clomid and nolva came all together with the cycle I ordered so I’ll have it.I might drop the eq since I don’t want to run that long of a cycle but I do have some tren Ace raws I could homebrew and run that just a little and test prop.
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SloppyJ
EQ can combat estro sides so be aware of that before you start taking .25mg of Adex every day if I read that correctly.
If you're going to run EQ run it at 800mg or more per week for 20wk min. IMO. Not trying to talk you out of it but that's what's worked for me the best.
EQ converts to estrogen, however aromatised EQ molecule is less active then the the endogenous estrogen
I do agree that EQ requires 800mg+/week for optimal results in a 220lbs and more athlete if combined only with testosterone
Not many know but Testosterone + EQ + DHB is a very effective combo, the EQ and DHB despite very similar in structure creates a synergistic nice effect in term of lean mass and strength gains, in such case 300mg/week DHB and 400-500 mg/week of EQ will simply have superior results to just 800mg/week EQ
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Yeah, Test cyp and Dhb(1-Test cyp) is also a good combo.
Max
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