Thread: Estrogen and endurance

Originally Posted by thebear

Getting e2 labs done this wk. Can’t seem to level them out. If I back off AI they go up, if I go on they drop (not sure to what that’s why getting labs done this wk). Back to 250mg test and 200mg Mast e a wk. I know most say you don’t need AI but I do. I take .5mg adex each day I pin. Curious, this past wk had a drain energy feeling, low energy and endurance sucks in gym. Would you assume high or low e2? Going in tomorrow just curious of anyone’s experience. To add: no morning wood, but can have sex.


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How many cycles under your belt?

Do you blast and cruise?

Full PCT after last cycle? How were your bloods after that?

How many times have you had bloodwork done for this run?

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Originally Posted by socalmk6gti

How many cycles under your belt?

Do you blast and cruise?

Full PCT after last cycle? How were your bloods after that?

How many times have you had bloodwork done for this run?

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Apologize. I am on trt. Doc won’t give AI so I started one on my one 8m ago as my e2 was through the roof. I stay around 250mg most of the time. Sometimes I will blast at 400mg but that’s not very often. Every few months I will back down for 4wks to 100mg just to give my system a break.


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Originally Posted by thebear

Apologize. I am on trt. Doc won’t give AI so I started one on my one 8m ago as my e2 was through the roof. I stay around 250mg most of the time. Sometimes I will blast at 400mg but that’s not very often. Every few months I will back down for 4wks to 100mg just to give my system a break.


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You are on prescribed TRT? at what dose?

250mg "most" of the time?

And sometimes you blast at 400mg....

And every few months you back down to 100mg for 4weeks?


I'm not trying to be a dick or sound rude but this is allover the place to me man. If you're just randomly pinning different amounts of test, even if from the same supplier....your body is going to be a hormonal rollercoaster.


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Originally Posted by socalmk6gti

You are on prescribed TRT? at what dose?

250mg "most" of the time?

And sometimes you blast at 400mg....

And every few months you back down to 100mg for 4weeks?


I'm not trying to be a dick or sound rude but this is allover the place to me man. If you're just randomly pinning different amounts of test, even if from the same supplier....your body is going to be a hormonal rollercoaster.


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My rx is 100. I bump up to 25Omg for 2months, then back down to 100mg for a month. Then back up. I adjust AI as needed where I take .25 2x a wk at 100mg and .5 2x a wk when at 250mg. Sometimes, maybe 1-2x a yr I will blast more but I honestly don’t feel great on large doses, so don’t do it often. On 100mg, my test was 1200 and my e2 not on AI was 88. On 250mg, Test was around 2000 and e2 at 190. My doc won’t test my estrogen so I have to do it on my own which is costly over time. I honestly haven’t tested it recently on AI, that’s why I am heading in tomorrow. Hope that helps.


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Originally Posted by thebear

My rx is 100. I bump up to 25Omg for 2months, then back down to 100mg for a month. Then back up. I adjust AI as needed where I take .25 2x a wk at 100mg and .5 2x a wk when at 250mg. Sometimes, maybe 1-2x a yr I will blast more but I honestly don’t feel great on large doses, so don’t do it often. On 100mg, my test was 1200 and my e2 not on AI was 88. On 250mg, Test was around 2000 and e2 at 190. My doc won’t test my estrogen so I have to do it on my own which is costly over time. I honestly haven’t tested it recently on AI, that’s why I am heading in tomorrow. Hope that helps.


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That’s the problem man. Dropping the dose for 4 weeks and then starting again doesn’t actually give you any off time. Right when your levels get back to normal you’re pinning again. And only raising your dose for two months really doesn’t give you optimal time to benefit from it. You should be doing something like on 3 months, then back to 100mg for 4-6 months.


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Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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Originally Posted by CRC1276

Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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I know. But without an AI at that dose of test and mast my e2 was 190! Yup crazy. That’s why I went back on an AI. Felt great for a wk and now feel like my battery is low and my overall endurance, which is good, sucks.


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Originally Posted by CRC1276

Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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This answer. Mast alone may not curb it but the AI should be fine. Could your AI be overdosed or is it a trusted source?


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Originally Posted by cherrybombfitnes

This answer. Mast alone may not curb it but the AI should be fine. Could your AI be overdosed or is it a trusted source?


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Everyone said that. So months ago on test and mast I dropped my AI. Fuck that. My e2 went up to 190!


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