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      Estrogen and endurance

      Getting e2 labs done this wk. Can’t seem to level them out. If I back off AI they go up, if I go on they drop (not sure to what that’s why getting labs done this wk). Back to 250mg test and 200mg Mast e a wk. I know most say you don’t need AI but I do. I take .5mg adex each day I pin. Curious, this past wk had a drain energy feeling, low energy and endurance sucks in gym. Would you assume high or low e2? Going in tomorrow just curious of anyone’s experience. To add: no morning wood, but can have sex.


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      Quote Originally Posted by thebear View Post
      Getting e2 labs done this wk. Can’t seem to level them out. If I back off AI they go up, if I go on they drop (not sure to what that’s why getting labs done this wk). Back to 250mg test and 200mg Mast e a wk. I know most say you don’t need AI but I do. I take .5mg adex each day I pin. Curious, this past wk had a drain energy feeling, low energy and endurance sucks in gym. Would you assume high or low e2? Going in tomorrow just curious of anyone’s experience. To add: no morning wood, but can have sex.


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      How many cycles under your belt?

      Do you blast and cruise?

      Full PCT after last cycle? How were your bloods after that?

      How many times have you had bloodwork done for this run?

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      Quote Originally Posted by socalmk6gti View Post
      How many cycles under your belt?

      Do you blast and cruise?

      Full PCT after last cycle? How were your bloods after that?

      How many times have you had bloodwork done for this run?

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      Apologize. I am on trt. Doc won’t give AI so I started one on my one 8m ago as my e2 was through the roof. I stay around 250mg most of the time. Sometimes I will blast at 400mg but that’s not very often. Every few months I will back down for 4wks to 100mg just to give my system a break.


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      Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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      Quote Originally Posted by CRC1276 View Post
      Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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      I know. But without an AI at that dose of test and mast my e2 was 190! Yup crazy. That’s why I went back on an AI. Felt great for a wk and now feel like my battery is low and my overall endurance, which is good, sucks.


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      Bump. Any vets have any input? Like I said running bloods but just like knowing sometimes by feeling so I can gauge stuff in the future.


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      I really contiplated answer this question because I hate giving advice with out complete bloods but to me it sounds like low e now but please wait for bloods and we can go from there . Are you sure you’re Masteron is Masteron? What were your numbers with out the mast and just on try dose ? Have you ever considered Aromasin instead of adex ? I only use Aromasin because of no estrogen rebound. When you’re E2 we’re y experiencing any sides ? We’re you only on test at 250 mg and mast e when you’re E2 was at 190 ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ranger15 View Post
      I really contiplated answer this question because I hate giving advice with out complete bloods but to me it sounds like low e now but please wait for bloods and we can go from there . Are you sure you’re Masteron is Masteron? What were your numbers with out the mast and just on try dose ? Have you ever considered Aromasin instead of adex ? I only use Aromasin because of no estrogen rebound. When you’re E2 we’re y experiencing any sides ? We’re you only on test at 250 mg and mast e when you’re E2 was at 190 ?
      Yes e2 high on the mast e and test. When just on test 100, it was high. I am super sensitive. The mast is from a sponsor so I assume it’s legit. Never tried aromasin. What would be typical dose?


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      Quote Originally Posted by thebear View Post
      Getting e2 labs done this wk. Can’t seem to level them out. If I back off AI they go up, if I go on they drop (not sure to what that’s why getting labs done this wk). Back to 250mg test and 200mg Mast e a wk. I know most say you don’t need AI but I do. I take .5mg adex each day I pin. Curious, this past wk had a drain energy feeling, low energy and endurance sucks in gym. Would you assume high or low e2? Going in tomorrow just curious of anyone’s experience. To add: no morning wood, but can have sex.


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      Running mast along with an AI definitely has the potential to kill your estrogen. Low and high e2 have basically the same symptoms so my first thought is drop the masteron.


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      Quote Originally Posted by CRC1276 View Post
      Sounds like low estrogen to me. I honestly don’t think you would need much of an AI with that dose of test each week along with masteron which also plays with estrogen some.


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      This answer. Mast alone may not curb it but the AI should be fine. Could your AI be overdosed or is it a trusted source?


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