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Maximizing androgenic development in teenagers
Firstly I know that steroids are not recommended for teenagers, and 3-4years prior training should be done before hoping on gear. I am not using steriods mainly for anabolic effects, rather androgenic to maximize my puberty: Frame, height, voice deepening, dick ect. I am willing to wait for 2more years (have been training for 3) for anabolic effects, however this is my last chance to gain some masculinzation from steroids.
as most steroids are androgenic and anabolic, which are those with best androgenic score, which would benifit teenagers the most? Proviron interested me specifically due to its affinity to bind with the aromatase enzyme, inhibiting estrogen and keeping growth plates open, and it basically being pure DHT
What would you recommend to do? proviron 50mg ED and mk677 25mg ED was recommended? My health is also really important but so is my development.
Thanks guys, and best of luck in everything
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Originally Posted by
man chester
Firstly I know that steroids are not recommended for teenagers, and 3-4years prior training should be done before hoping on gear. I am not using steriods mainly for anabolic effects, rather androgenic to maximize my puberty: Frame, height, voice deepening, dick ect. I am willing to wait for 2more years (have been training for 3) for anabolic effects, however this is my last chance to gain some masculinzation from steroids.
as most steroids are androgenic and anabolic, which are those with best androgenic score, which would benifit teenagers the most? Proviron interested me specifically due to its affinity to bind with the aromatase enzyme, inhibiting estrogen and keeping growth plates open, and it basically being pure DHT
What would you recommend to do? proviron 50mg ED and mk677 25mg ED was recommended? My health is also really important but so is my development.
Thanks guys, and best of luck in everything
If youre still a teenager you shouldnt do anything with out doctor approval. Your hpta system is not fully developed and you may cause irreparable harm. Some people are just late bloomers. Some people are just not genetically going to be an alpha male. Have patience. If you are that worried see a doctor. Dont make a mistake that you will regret years later.
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understand bro.
so in your opinion there is nothing a teenager could do or take were the benefits outway the risks?
thanks
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Originally Posted by
man chester
understand bro.
so in your opinion there is nothing a teenager could do or take were the benefits outway the risks?
thanks
I would not advise it. Your growth plates and hpta system are not complete at your age. What happens if you need to inject exogenous test for the rest of your life or become impotent? That is on the extreme side but why risk it. At your age your natural test production is at its highest. Eat fresh foods. Cut all soda and processed foods out. Research nutrition. That is 80%of bodybuilding. If you really feel that you have some medical issue see a doctor.
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Look i was the poster child for late bloomer in all aspects of masculinity.
I started using just short test cycles at age 22. Over the years igained more facial hair. Voice has deepened and mucles and even my mind becsme more mature.
So this isnt your last chance to maximize your manliness so to speak. It just takes time.
Just wait it out and do it the right way or your gona permanently mess yourself up.
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as mentioned I am fine doing bodybuilding natty, I have been doing it now for 3years and am content with my progress.
what about not injecting test at all? then there is no need for ai or pct, just straight DHT (either through gel or proviron). And regarding open growth plates thats the reason i want to take it is because of "an increase in GH secretion does not seem to be a necessary condition for androgen-stimulated growth. " https://sci-hub.tw/10.1210/jcem.76.4.8473416
And going to doctor is not viable, however i do think i am a clinical case (159cm (bottom 1.5th percentile)
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Cmack053
Look i was the poster child for late bloomer in all aspects of masculinity.
I started using just short test cycles at age 22. Over the years igained more facial hair. Voice has deepened and mucles and even my mind becsme more mature.
So this isnt your last chance to maximize your manliness so to speak. It just takes time.
Just wait it out and do it the right way or your gona permanently mess yourself up.
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facial hair, voice and muscles are something which in my limited knowledge are thought to not be limited to puberty
Growth of body hair, including underarm, abdominal, chest hair and pubic hair. Loss of scalp hair due to androgenic alopecia can also occur.
Greater mass of thigh muscles in front of the femur, rather than behind it as is typical in mature females
Growth of facial hair
Enlargement of larynx (Adam’s apple) and deepening of voice[3]
Increased stature; adult males are taller than adult females, on average
Heavier skull and bone structure
Increased muscle mass and strength
Larger hands, feet and nose than women, prepubescent boys, and girls
Larger bodies
Square face
Small waist, but wider than females
Broadening of shoulders and chest; shoulders wider than hips[4]
Increased secretions of oil and sweat glands, often causing acne and body odor[3]
Coarsening or rigidity of skin texture due to less subcutaneous fat
Higher waist-to-hip ratio than prepubescent or adult females or prepubescent males, on average
Lower bodyfat percentage than prepubescent or adult females or prepubescent males, on average
Enlargement (growth) of the penis (during puberty)
These are something which would largely be changed only during puberty (in my case it might also be to late) , I appreciate the words of wisdom but i really do not want to continue living as a 159cm 15inch shoulder ( i think ) guy. are there any alternatives which are half way safe?
thanks
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Originally Posted by
man chester
as mentioned I am fine doing bodybuilding natty, I have been doing it now for 3years and am content with my progress.
what about not injecting test at all? then there is no need for ai or pct, just straight DHT (either through gel or proviron). And regarding open growth plates thats the reason i want to take it is because of "an increase in GH secretion does not seem to be a necessary condition for androgen-stimulated growth. "
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1210/jcem.76.4.8473416
And going to doctor is not viable, however i do think i am a clinical case (159cm (bottom 1.5th percentile)
Im not going to be the one to tell you what you want to hear. I gave you my advise its up to you what you do.
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I see everything as being safe if done correctly. But if you can't at least monitor your bloodwork through a trusted doctor who knows what your on then its definitely risky.
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will speak to a doctor about doing bloods, already asked my trusted doctor but she said no for testing testosterone.
If i do go through with this would proviron 50mg be enough? I would take along side 10-20mg accutane (as little as possible due to risk of premature closing of growth plates)
potentially i was suggested to do aromasin along with mk677 for height.
thoughts on this? thanks a lot
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