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Originally Posted by
cherrybombfitnes;[URL="tel:1013814"
1013814[/URL]]All oral cycles are for wimps brother. No offense. It’s also a terrible cycle. You need test in your cycle always. And what Irish said, it’s very bad for your liver and takes significant up keep (your liver and organs). Do test only. Trust us.
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I will go the test e route and skip the all oral. 500/week split into two doses. Will add Var as well.
Thanks everyone, I have absorbed a ton of knowledge in the short time that I’ve been a member here. This is a very different experience than what I had back in the day relying on a few friends for information!
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Originally Posted by
bigpapapumpaf
I get 2ml a month for $5.00 fwiw
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Hey that’s not bad. Although I guess I’m spoiled with my 20ml jugs of 400mg/ml.
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Originally Posted by
MrRoboto;[URL="tel:1013922"
1013922[/URL]]Keep us updated- in the 40+ boat myself, doing research for my next cycle as well.
Will do. Us old timers need to have some fun too!
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So I am close to placing my first order. Been researching here as much as I can (life has been crazy busy) but have to admit I am a bit overwhelmed trying to figure out in cycle/post cycle stuff and how much I’ll need to order. I tend to overthink stuff like this then can’t seem to pull the tigger.
I’m looking for a simple/conservative cycle. It will be done in complete stealth mode unbeknownst to wife friends etc. As I stated in another post I am not looking to blow up I just want to lean out and add quality mass and strength in a conservative manner.
As stated in previous post I’m gonna go test e 500/week in two doses. Var 40 mg/day. That’s the easy part. It’s the other stuff I need to nail down.
originally was going to go with amiridex but am really intrigued by Proviron. Is the latter enough to protect against the sides of var/test?
Also, at the age of 46 I really need to get the post cycle stuff right, do I need HCG, Clomid and nolvadex? How much?
I’ll repost my stats
5’8”
180
fairly lean - I have a 4 pack... kinda- 31 inch waist
for my age and having only been back in the gym for 3 years after a 13 year break I am very pleased with the results I’ve seen so far but now I want more lean mass and the remaining fat gone. Also excited about the enhanced mood and quality sleep thing.
based on what I’ve described, what in the way of ancillaries/pct should I order and how much for a 12 week cycle?
Thanks in advance BOP!
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also, I’m gonna see my doc on Friday talk to him about trt and have him order me some baseline labs.
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I am no marriage counselor, but from my own experience hiding it from the wife can have a very bad ending to it..I would think about the trt doctor prescribed honest with your wife about the benefits for you and her route first..If you cant and still choose to hide it..be aware of the noticeable side effects she may be able to see, possible acne, aggression, faster muscle mass than expected, wanting to fuck her everytime she breathes, etc... and DO NOT keep it in your house or car, or most importantly anywhere your kiddos can find it (so anywhere in your house pretty much) find a friend whos house you can keep it at that you trust, or ANYWHERE but home..if you hide it and she finds it I promise you it can go 100 ways ugly real quick...take my word for it!
Last edited by HeavyMetalMadMan; 07-18-2019 at 04:10 AM.
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The advice is appreciated and I do agree it’s not an ideal scenario. When I met my wife I was cycling and she was cool with it. A lot has changed since then. Most notably she is a recovering alcoholic (almost 4 years sober). It is difficult for her to see anyone especially me doing stuff whether it’s drinking steroids etc. I had to give up drinking, it was either that or my marriage/family. So openly doing it is not an option for me unfortunately. I do have a friend who I can keep it with so no issue there.
The obvious stuff that goes with it, rapid bulk etc. is why I’d like to do a conservative cycle. Maybe 500 test e/week and 40 var/day is too much. I could maybe look at going straight 400 test e and no var or even just var. I just want a definite edge and some noticeable (to me) results without going crazy and with minimal sides. This is part of the reason why I am overthinking the ancillaries and pct.
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