Thread: strength and mass cycle

Thx BGT for all your help and you are correct I’m tired of the criticism from this cherry fitness guy and any more suggestions I’m all ears

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

Becuse of the short esters and mid esters to get it rolling
Or you can build yor own with test C Test P and Test I

You really don’t need that at all. Really just a waste of test c. Sust has you covered with plenty of esters. But do your thing.


Robolics Labs Intelligence

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

Although I have no problem with using Sust entire cycle it has been proven to be unstable unless injected several times a week . Sust is an old school love it or hate it. I only use it for jump staring . But if used with NPP or a short ester its cool to inject often. In this case I've recommended with a long Esters like deca so to transition into testosterone C makes sense

Well you can’t really kick start with cyp. It kicks in several weeks after your sust. Sust has Phenylpropionate prop and undecyclenate. It only takes three pins to keep it stable. If you’re gonna kick start with test you should use prop or Pp.


Robolics Labs Intelligence

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

400 -600 mg of deca is pretty standard in my world at least.
200 my be better suited for you.
I don't give ridiculous numbers

I use about 300 max and grow like a weed if I do my cycle right. With about 300 test and masteron and that’s it. I just think many people use far more than is really needed. I challenge people to try out smaller doses and see how much better and more enjoyable the cycle is. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents. I rarely use even a gram total of gear and it does me wonders.


Robolics Labs Intelligence

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

Would love to hear your suggestion instead of criticism that way I can learn something

Please enlighten us all

Oh I’m not criticizing anyone at all. I’ve been attempting to give my suggestions the whole time. I just asked you a couple questions. Don’t get mad.


Robolics Labs Intelligence

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

So many way to skin a cat no one can tell any one what to do. Its just a suggestion based off personal experience and numbers I have run and been successful.

And I’m not telling anyone what to do. I’m trying to give him my advice of what I’ve learned over 12 years. I know most guys don’t try smaller dose and therefore don’t realize you don’t have to do the high doses everyone copies online.


Robolics Labs Intelligence

Originally Posted by Biggaintime

400 -600 mg of deca is pretty standard in my world at least.
200 my be better suited for you.
I don't give ridiculous numbers

I’ve done 750 test and 600 deca before and at least for me no amount of caber or masteron or aromasin would take my sides away. I didn’t have a sex drive for 4 months. If the OP has used 600 with a ton of test and had no issues then disregard my posts. I’m just trying to put necessary information out there Incase some need it to keep guys healthy. And doses like that aren’t really the best doses for those doing an unfamiliar cycle. If the OP is familiar and has done this before and isn’t t worried about it then have at it. Just trying to think of others before myself is all. Some of you guys get so mad when someone challenges how you do things. Chill out bro.


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